AJ and Wilder - Career breakdown

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  • chrisJS
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    #11
    Obviously Joshua is a far more proven commodity. Wilder spent too long fighting nobodies at least Joshua has won some unifications, beaten some champions, ranked fighters etc;

    There is no comparison but Wilder has a punchers chance in a potential fight. Joshua also has a punchers chance and a better fighters chance.

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    • KingHippo
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      #12
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      It’s all pretty simple. AJ is better all way around. But he is weak enough defensively and there is a slight question stamina wise that Wilder’s power makes him a genuine threat to defeat AJ and delay or prevent his rise to superstardom.

      Will AJ take the fight now or will he delay it until he’s pocketed some more dough? Whatever he decides is fine with me but if he doesn’t fight wilder next he and his fans should expect so see him take some criticism.
      I disagree.

      AJ has better balance, better punching mechanics, better counter punching skills and better offensive footwork.

      Wilder has better defensive footwork, better reflexes, longer snappier jab, better upper body and head movement, more power, faster and has better stamina.

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      • soul_survivor
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        #13
        Originally posted by KingHippo
        I disagree.

        AJ has better balance, better punching mechanics, better counter punching skills and better offensive footwork.

        Wilder has better defensive footwork, better reflexes, longer snappier jab, better upper body and head movement, more power, faster and has better stamina.
        Better defensive footwork? You mean when he jumps back from a punch? lol

        He does have better upper body movement thought but it still didnt stop him from being tagged repeatedly by Ortiz, who was shorter with a shorter reach.

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        • KingHippo
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          #14
          Originally posted by soul_survivor
          Better defensive footwork? You mean when he jumps back from a punch? lol

          He does have better upper body movement thought but it still didnt stop him from being tagged repeatedly by Ortiz, who was shorter with a shorter reach.
          At least he can throw a pivot on the back foot, that's already better than AJ lol

          And let's not act like getting tagged by a fighter like Ortiz is a sign of weakness. Not like AJ was the most evasive either:

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          • JRB123
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            #15
            Originally posted by soul_survivor
            AJ fought for his first world title in his 16th professional fight, aged just 26.

            Wilder fought for his first world title in his 33rd professional fight, aged 30. Had entered the world Ring rankings for heavyweight in 2013, failed to capitalise on fights with either Klitschko.


            AJ has had 6 championship fights, one against Wlad Klitschko an all time great, one against Carlos Takam and a unification. AJ is 28 years old.

            Wilder has had 8 championship fights, no unifications and only one defence against someone ranked in The Ring top 10. Wilder is 32 years old.

            Champions during AJ's reign have been Joseph Parker, Lucas Browne, Ruslan Chageav and Deontay Wilder, AJ has already fought and beaten Parker.

            Champions during Wilder's reign have been Wladimir Klitschko, Lucas Browne, Ruslan Chageav, Joseph Parker and Tyson Fury. He has not faced any of them.


            End.
            Facts.

            Yet the fans of the ten year pro think that he has fought a slew of killers in the ring.

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            • The Problem Child
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              #16
              AnPEDy Hoeshua beat Klitschko

              Anthony Joshua struggled against Parker

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              • Sun_Tzu
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                #17
                Here is the bottom line if AJ and Wilder fight. If Wilder doesnt land something big and stop AJ he will get his stool pushed in. Its as simple as that, he cant out box AJ. He is the living breathing embodiment of a punchers chance. He has a fast, scary powerful right and a pretty good jab to set it up. There are some other wrinkles to his game but that just about covers it. The issue is all he really has to do is clip you and you are probably done. AJ isnt some technical master either but he is sound enough if he wants to play it super safe he can out box Wilder to a really boring UD and I think that will be the plan if they fight.

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                • KingHippo
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by JRB123
                  Facts.

                  Yet the fans of the ten year pro think that he has fought a slew of killers in the ring.
                  Nobody thinks that.

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                  • KingHippo
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Sun_Tzu
                    Here is the bottom line if AJ and Wilder fight. If Wilder doesnt land something big and stop AJ he will get his stool pushed in. Its as simple as that, he cant out box AJ. He is the living breathing embodiment of a punchers chance. He has a fast, scary powerful right and a pretty good jab to set it up. There are some other wrinkles to his game but that just about covers it. The issue is all he really has to do is clip you and you are probably done. AJ isnt some technical master either but he is sound enough if he wants to play it super safe he can out box Wilder to a really boring UD and I think that will be the plan if they fight.
                    AJ is too stiff, slow and flat footed to stand a chance against Wilder. Head and upper body movement is non existant, he will never be able to deal with Wilder jab and left/right hook. He will suffer the same fate Ortiz did, who is comparable to AJ in many ways.

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                    • JRB123
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Sun_Tzu
                      Here is the bottom line if AJ and Wilder fight. If Wilder doesnt land something big and stop AJ he will get his stool pushed in. Its as simple as that, he cant out box AJ. He is the living breathing embodiment of a punchers chance. He has a fast, scary powerful right and a pretty good jab to set it up. There are some other wrinkles to his game but that just about covers it. The issue is all he really has to do is clip you and you are probably done. AJ isnt some technical master either but he is sound enough if he wants to play it super safe he can out box Wilder to a really boring UD and I think that will be the plan if they fight.
                      Joshua doesn't need to. He will catch Wilder with a counter that rocks him and then he scores a knockdown. Later on he will get a stoppage from another knockdown.

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