Wilder had no impact in Brooklyn

[Madison Boxing]

Personally I'd love to see AJ laying on his back looking up at the lights in front of 90k people and Wilder screaming BOOOOOMB SQUAD. I love the way Errol Spence went over there and made Brook take a knee in front of his hometown crowd.

spence has got a pair of balls and an elite skillset. wilders got neither.

[Motorcity Cobra]

Has loud dibella stated that deontay wilder pulls in the same viewer numbers, financials and ppv buys as AJ?

Because if he has and you believe him with all evidence pointing to the contrary, then id say you have more of a bias problem than you think.

ask yourself a question.. do you think that everyone that watches wilder on showtime... is going to buy him on ppv?

No Lou has never claimed that. Nobody has claimed that. My point is Smith has no idea what's going on over here. Being here for one week means nothing. NY is a city of 8 million people. Even more when you take into account all the visitors. Last time I went to NY they were talking boxing at a barbershop in lower manhattan. I guarantee Smith didn't go to any black or puerto rican barbershops in Brooklyn asking about Wilder. Smith doesn't know what the hell is going on here. I'm pretty sure nobody in the gentrified area of Brooklyn Smith was in knew anything about Wilder.

[daggum]

these UK fanboys keep spewing the same ducking excuse garbage

wilder dont sell omg wilder nobody knows him!

do you guys not pay attention...showtime is already promoting it....they did a review of wilder/ortiz during the preshow.....they mentioned wilder and ran clips of him being interviewed

the US has already started promoting it....theres already a buzz over here about it.....wilders last fight did good numbers and ended in dramatic fashion

these guys wanna act like wilder is still fighting in alabama high school gyms on local access channel or some ****....good god do you mutts every listen to yourselves?

showtimes the third most watched boxing channel over here. imagine if joshua was on the third most watched uk channel...

[Motorcity Cobra]

spence has got a pair of balls and an elite skillset. wilders got neither.

Wilder was at the airport ready to depart for Russia. Wilder will go anywhere to fight. AJ won't travel.

[Motorcity Cobra]

barclays has such a great tradition of boxing....who is he competing with peter quillin and daniel jacobs?

Second only behind Keith Thurman. Thurman fights average a higher attendance at Barclays than the Brooklyn Nets. So now you gonna tell me basketball isn't popular and nobody in Brooklyn knows who the Nets are.

[yammy25]

No Lou has never claimed that. Nobody has claimed that. My point is Smith has no idea what's going on over here. Being here for one week means nothing. NY is a city of 8 million people. Even more when you take into account all the visitors. Last time I went to NY they were talking boxing at a barbershop in lower manhattan. I guarantee Smith didn't go to any black or puerto rican barbershops in Brooklyn asking about Wilder. Smith doesn't know what the hell is going on here.

but the networks do... and when they release figures of wilder fights.. and when fat dan releases purse figures then they all testify that AJ makes the money. AJ has the ability to draw in his territory that wilder doesnt.

Americas is THE market, if you are known and can penetrate that market. Neither of them can at this current point in time.

And lets be real its only a couple fights that have done good numbers he hasnt been doing it for years but im being fair.. so do you think all the people who watched wilder vs ortiz, or stiverne 2.. buy a wilder PPV?

[yammy25]

Wilder was at the airport ready to depart for Russia. Wilder will go anywhere to fight. AJ won't travel.

You know he had to because he lost the purse bid come on now..

dont make it out like haymon deliberately lost the purse bid of his american WBC hw champ to a russian outfit to maximise his clients purse.

Dont be that guy..

[daggum]

Second only behind Keith Thurman. Thurman fights average a higher attendance at Barclays than the Brooklyn Nets. So now you gonna tell me basketball isn't popular and nobody in Brooklyn knows who the Nets are.

thurman fights once a year. the nets have 41 games a year. the nets average 15.5k a game. thurman did 12k vs porter and 16k vs garcia so that averages out to 14k.

also comparing a once a year event to a running national pastime is pretty silly. you should be able to do more in a once a year event but thurman and wilder can't even do that against new yorks second most popular basketball team oh my.

[Motorcity Cobra]

but the networks do... and when they release figures of wilder fights.. and when fat dan releases purse figures then they all testify that AJ makes the money. AJ has the ability to draw in his territory that wilder doesnt.

Americas is THE market, if you are known and can penetrate that market. Neither of them can at this current point in time.

And lets be real its only a couple fights that have done good numbers he hasnt been doing it for years but im being fair.. so do you think all the people who watched wilder vs ortiz, or stiverne 2.. buy a wilder PPV?

Who is saying Wilder makes more money or sell more PPV's than AJ? You're arguing something you're making up in your head

[Motorcity Cobra]

You know he had to because he lost the purse bid come on now..

dont make it out like haymon deliberately lost the purse bid of his american WBC hw champ to a russian outfit to maximise his clients purse.

Dont be that guy..

The quote I responded to made it seem like Wilder wouldn't fight outside the US. Has Wilder shown he's willing to travel?