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  • #71
    Originally posted by soul_survivor View Post
    You are obviously trying so hard to convince yourself. Can you objectively say that AJ is a bad belt holder when his last 3 fights have been Wlad, Takam and Parker, and he holds all but one belt in the division?

    If yyou really believe AJ is a **** champion then what do you think Wilder is?

    I dunno if you're just a dishonest guy or you have been brainwashed.

    Plus stop bringing up Pac and May in everything. I mean you could search my posts from years back and I said the fight would happen around 2014 but Maidana got in the way. I was not shocked at all having followed lil boy floys whole career.
    Any logical and somewhat objective person has Joshua as the #1 in the division currently based on resume, accomplishments and overall package. It's slim pickings in the division. Povetkin has been a pretty good fighter, Parker is a solid fighter, Fury is fairly good but inactive, I agree with your take that Wilder is a poor fighter but his power makes him about average. He's one of the most underwhelming champions I've ever seen. Joshua IMO is far from the finished article but he has a higher ceiling and if he beats guys like Povetkin, Wilder (easy money) and a rejuvenated Fury then he's the real deal IMO.

    The notion that he's a fake and a terrible fighter and champion is odd though. He's the only active Heavyweight to win a unification fight (2), he's also beaten more ranked opponents than Wilder and Wilder's best win/only credible win was over Ortiz who had never been a champion and was lower ranked than Parker for example. Klit was old (about the same age as Ortiz) but in much better shape and a much better fighter than Ortiz will ever be and has ever been).

    What's funny is that is that Joshua's so bad yet he'd be Wilder's signature win and if he pulls the upset you can bet his fans would put Wilder right near the top of the all-time Heavyweight rankings based on the win and the only way he wins is by an out of the blue KO after Joshua did the hard work of beating ranked opponents and winning 75% of the belts. Wilder would just be Buster Douglas part 2.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by chrisJS View Post
      Any logical and somewhat objective person has Joshua as the #1 in the division currently based on resume, accomplishments and overall package. It's slim pickings in the division. Povetkin has been a pretty good fighter, Parker is a solid fighter, Fury is fairly good but inactive, I agree with your take that Wilder is a poor fighter but his power makes him about average. He's one of the most underwhelming champions I've ever seen. Joshua IMO is far from the finished article but he has a higher ceiling and if he beats guys like Povetkin, Wilder (easy money) and a rejuvenated Fury then he's the real deal IMO.

      The notion that he's a fake and a terrible fighter and champion is odd though. He's the only active Heavyweight to win a unification fight (2), he's also beaten more ranked opponents than Wilder and Wilder's best win/only credible win was over Ortiz who had never been a champion and was lower ranked than Parker for example. Klit was old (about the same age as Ortiz) but in much better shape and a much better fighter than Ortiz will ever be and has ever been).

      What's funny is that is that Joshua's so bad yet he'd be Wilder's signature win and if he pulls the upset you can bet his fans would put Wilder right near the top of the all-time Heavyweight rankings based on the win and the only way he wins is by an out of the blue KO after Joshua did the hard work of beating ranked opponents and winning 75% of the belts. Wilder would just be Buster Douglas part 2.
      lol this in a nutshell...they keep claiming AJ is rubbish, guys like raga****head label him a **** champion and yet he would be the best win on Wilder's decade long resume by a huge distance

      and like I said before, if AJ is a **** champion then what does that make of wildeR???

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      • #73
        Originally posted by soul_survivor View Post
        lol this in a nutshell...they keep claiming AJ is rubbish, guys like raga****head label him a **** champion and yet he would be the best win on Wilder's decade long resume by a huge distance

        and like I said before, if AJ is a **** champion then what does that make of wildeR???
        A Joshua win would be better than his 40 wins COMBINED. Put that into perspective.

        A competitive loss would be in his top 2-3 career achievements.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
          These people have no idea what's going on over here. Would you listen to Jim Lampley tell you what's going on in the UK boxing scene?
          What exactly is going on over there in terms of your superstar deontay.....not much so far by the looks of it fella...his numbers have not changed at arenas or on t.v and his purses have not changed much.
          Please enlighten me son

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