Comments Thread For: Jeff Lacy Files Lawsuit Over 'Left Hook' Trademark

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Yall are savage AF!!!!

[Szef]

Joe Frazier is rolling in his grave.

[angkag]

It's called a trademark. If authorized by the trademarking folks, you can purchase rights to certain combination of words. If he has the compound left hook trademarked, he's owns the rights.

I think that's the core issue here, being able to trademark the commonly referred to name of a punch that is not unique to him, and was used long before he was born.

Does the fact that he used it as an alias give him the right to trademark the punch ? Or can he trademark any punch, eg 'uppercut'. Or must it be a combination of words, such as left hook, right hook, left uppercut, right uppercut, left jab, right jab, left cross, right cross etc ?

[McNulty]

I think that's the core issue here, being able to trademark the commonly referred to name of a punch that is not unique to him, and was used long before he was born.

Does the fact that he used it as an alias give him the right to trademark the punch ? Or can he trademark any punch, eg 'uppercut'. Or must it be a combination of words, such as left hook, right hook, left uppercut, right uppercut, left jab, right jab, left cross, right cross etc ?

I think a mental hurdle for most people is understanding trademarks and how they can be used. From what I know (which is very little), you run into problems with products and branding. Left Hook might not be as common in the real world as you think it is. Also, I think pricing for trademarks come in at a variety of scales.

If you got enough money you can buy all sorts of stuff. As previously mentioned Sky Sports bought Sky. I think that cost a pretty penny. If you can by Sky, you can buy Left Hook.

Apple provides a list on their site on all of their trademarks:
https://www.apple.com/legal/intellec...pletmlist.html

There are a lot of common words ^ there.

It appears they own the word Apple. That doesn't mean people can't say the word or etc, but when making a brand, you're going to have problems. Like I said with Sky, Apple is a common word.

If Jeff Lacy owns a trademark for the compound Left Hook that would be very very smart of him and his team. I'll be following this one out of pure curiosity.

[ArturoBalboa]

It's using the words left hook and it's a can, dual infringement.

[angkag]

I think a mental hurdle for most people is understanding trademarks and how they can be used. From what I know (which is very little), you run into problems with products and branding. Left Hook might not be as common in the real world as you think it is. Also, I think pricing for trademarks come in at a variety of scales.

If you got enough money you can buy all sorts of stuff. As previously mentioned Sky Sports bought Sky. I think that cost a pretty penny. If you can by Sky, you can buy Left Hook.

Apple provides a list on their site on all of their trademarks:
https://www.apple.com/legal/intellec...pletmlist.html

There are a lot of common words ^ there.

It appears they own the word Apple. That doesn't mean people can't say the word or etc, but when making a brand, you're going to have problems. Like I said with Sky, Apple is a common word.

If Jeff Lacy owns a trademark for the compound Left Hook that would be very very smart of him and his team. I'll be following this one out of pure curiosity.

I think there might be some logic to it if Lacy established some form of business that used the 'left hook' label to attach to some products such that he had a claim to some sort of brand value and protection of, but as far as I know its just a random trademarking of the two words and then suing others who use them.

It feels more like misuse of the trademark concept, and I hope the court asks for proof of pecuniary loss through the drinks company using the name, and throws it out if there is none.

eg. if a software company were to use the term 'cocoa' related to something that competed or leveraged off of products that Apple produced (Apple having this trademarked), then I can see Apple being able to sue, but if its a err, cocoa product for a nice hot bedtime drink, hopefully the court would throw that out too.

[McNulty]

I think there might be some logic to it if Lacy established some form of business that used the 'left hook' label to attach to some products such that he had a claim to some sort of brand value and protection of, but as far as I know its just a random trademarking of the two words and then suing others who use them.

It feels more like misuse of the trademark concept, and I hope the court asks for proof of pecuniary loss through the drinks company using the name, and throws it out if there is none.

eg. if a software company were to use the term 'cocoa' related to something that competed or leveraged off of products that Apple produced (Apple having this trademarked), then I can see Apple being able to sue, but if its a err, cocoa product for a nice hot bedtime drink, hopefully the court would throw that out too.

I don't think you need a product, just a checkbook.

Apple can do whatever they want in your example. You can either pay a licensing fee with Apple which I think is most common or get sued --- eventually.

I don't think it has anything to do with the type of business. You own the word it's that simple. Com*****g has nothing to do with cocoa, know what I mean?

When you own something like that, it eventually comes down to how much money do you want to spend on lawyers to recoup damages.

Boxingscene for instance. I'm going to guess they have that trademarked. If I start a business that sells boxes for moving and I call it Boxing Scene, my lawyer is going to get a call from this site looking to for us to cease and disest. If I refuse, the necessary paperwork will get filled out and we'll have our day in court. I would probably lose.

[angkag]

Boxingscene for instance. I'm going to guess they have that trademarked. If I start a business that sells boxes for moving and I call it Boxing Scene, my lawyer is going to get a call from this site looking to for us to cease and disest. If I refuse, the necessary paperwork will get filled out and we'll have our day in court. I would probably lose.

I'd be rooting for you to win though !

[.!WAR MIKEY!.]

How can Left Hook be Lacy's trademark? It's the name of a punch. That's like someone trademarking right turn or some shit. It's also been used by many fighters before Lacy. GTFOH.

you can trademark anything but it has limits to what that trademark pertains too.

You can have "left Hook" trade mark for boxing gloves that doesnt mean everything is off limits from "left hook" just means direct markets etc cant use it, a company cant come out and make "left hooks" boxing shoes cause it too close in relations that the consumer can confuse the two as two different brands but say "left hook" cat food will be ok.

Ita a tricky lane for sure.

Now how close is sports drink to left hook as a moniker for a boxer???? its a stretch but hey why not try it if you in desperate need of cash.

[Removed Now]

He needs to sue Joe Calzaghe for that inhumane a$$ whooping he gave him way back when.

Yup. Overhyped bum. He let America down on that one smdh