Why doesn't Joshua have 'lights-out' power?

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  • HeadBodyBodyBody
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    Why doesn't Joshua have 'lights-out' power?

    Looking at Joshua's record, I don't believe there's a single instance of his knocking an opponent out cold. Has he ever achieved this?

    For someone who is being touted as some kind of Knock Out Artist, it's quite incredible, I think, that Joshua lacks cold power. Sure, some will say, 'Yeah, the ref always jumps in too early, that's why' but it's more than this, he seems tight and slow somehow. Is he simply too muscle-bound?

    We all saw Whyte's KO of Browne last week. Why haven't we seen KOs like that from Joshua?
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    Originally posted by HeadBodyBodyBody
    Looking at Joshua's record, I don't believe there's a single instance of his knocking an opponent out cold. Has he ever achieved this?

    For someone who is being touted as some kind of Knock Out Artist, it's quite incredible, I think, that Joshua lacks cold power. Sure, some will say, 'Yeah, the ref always jumps in too early, that's why' but it's more than this, he seems tight and slow somehow. Is he simply too muscle-bound?

    We all saw Whyte's KO of Browne last week. Why haven't we seen KOs like that from Joshua?
    Cause he has been trained properly and is a product of the Olympic System.Wilder and Whyte and Browne also are not proper boxers so they rely and focus on one shot KO's.Joshua has Skills and is a good boxer for his weight category.

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    • Vlad_
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      #3
      He got that “hometown advantage referee stoppage” power, though...

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      • 2fast2strong
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        #4
        Originally posted by Tygshsu
        Cause he has been trained properly and is a product of the Olympic System.Wilder and Whyte and Browne also are not proper boxers so they rely and focus on one shot KO's.Joshua has Skills and is a good boxer for his weight category.
        Actually it’s because very few fighters are born with that level of power.

        It’s pretty rare actually, that’s why it’s so exciting when a fighter does display one punch lights out power

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        • SUBZER0ED
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          #5
          Originally posted by HeadBodyBodyBody
          Looking at Joshua's record, I don't believe there's a single instance of his knocking an opponent out cold. Has he ever achieved this?

          For someone who is being touted as some kind of Knock Out Artist, it's quite incredible, I think, that Joshua lacks cold power. Sure, some will say, 'Yeah, the ref always jumps in too early, that's why' but it's more than this, he seems tight and slow somehow. Is he simply too muscle-bound?

          We all saw Whyte's KO of Browne last week. Why haven't we seen KOs like that from Joshua?
          Whyte landed a series of monster shots against Browne throughout the fight. It was an accumulation of damage that left him vulnerable for the KO. It's not like Dillian went out in the first round and "bam", KO'd Lucas with one shot. And let's not forget, Browne was a plodding punching bag, there to be pummeled. He was far from a skilled, defensive fighter, protecting himself.

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            #6
            Originally posted by HeadBodyBodyBody
            We all saw Whyte's KO of Browne last week. Why haven't we seen KOs like that from Joshua?
            Pretty sure AJ flattened Whyte with an uppercut against the ropes and Whyte couldn't get up. It wasn't a lot different to Whyte v Browne in the sense both the fighters that got knocked out had already taken punishment.

            But yeah, in general, i don't think he's got the raw power in his shots that Wilder does. I think Takam would've gone 12 rounds if the ref hadn't jumped in after a (missed) flurry. Also, a lot of his early stoppages were the ref jumping in as soon as he landed a few shots.

            He can obviously crack though.

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              Originally posted by SUBZER0ED
              Whyte landed a series of monster shots against Browne throughout the fight. It was an accumulation of damage that left him vulnerable for the KO. It's not like Dillian went out in the first round and "bam", KO'd Lucas with one shot. And let's not forget, Browne was a plodding punching bag, there to be pummeled. He was far from a skilled, defensive fighter, protecting himself.
              This someone understand s boxing !!

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              • HeadBodyBodyBody
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                #8
                Originally posted by Tygshsu
                Cause he has been trained properly
                So, it's a result of training... safely thrown punches. Yeah, I can see that, but even still, where's the speed, then? It's like he fights AS IF he has huge power, when he evidently doesn't. I would expect the type of fighter you are talking about to be mobile and sharp. Billy Joe Saunders-esque, maybe (on a good day, anyway, haha)

                Originally posted by Vlad_
                He got that “hometown advantage referee stoppage” power, though...
                Early stoppages, yeah, there is something to that. But I suspect that even if refs let the fights continue, we wouldn't exactly see unconscious bodies stacking up

                Originally posted by 2fast2strong
                It’s rare
                So you'd say punchers are born, not made, and that Joshua just doesn't have 'it'. I agree. It annoys me that Joshua's being made out to be something he's not, in that case. I guess it's mainly casuals and the hype-media that are pushing the narrative of Joshua being a cold killer

                Originally posted by SUBZER0ED
                Browne was a plodding punching bag
                Are you suggesting that Joshua's never fought someone as ploddy as Browne?? It still leaves the question of why we have seen a KO like that from Whyte but never from Joshua. Refs jump in too early when Joshua fights? Or Joshua just doesn't have that kind of power? You haven't addressed the question

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                • HeadShots
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                  #9
                  sleeping power needs speed.

                  Joshua is slow. His power is closer to Foreman's than Julian Jackson's. The guys who whip their punches have more sleeping power like Hearns, Julian Jackson and Deontay WIlder. they sling punches like they throwing baseballs.


                  All negros with fast twitch fibres incidentally.

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                  • BigZ44
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                    It's thudding, sledgehammer type power that breaks guys down shot by shot. Also, most dudes come in very defensive right away because of the reputation, so there aren't always a lot of shots landing cleanly. But it hardly matters when you've still stopped everyone you've ever faced

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