Eddie Hearn "Stop Crying Deontay Wilder, Fight Whyte I'll Put AJ On The Contract"

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Beyontay? Post a video of you right now so we can see how tough you are. Wilder the WBC champ that just knocked out the guy Joshua ducked doesn't deserve a unification? Post a video of you so we can see how tough an internet G is dissing HW boxing Champs. You're a buzzard

When did Joshua duck Ortiz? This simply never happened.

Ortiz got stripped of his mando position for failing a drugs test. He’s still ineligible to fight for a WBA title until November as far as I am aware.

Joshua can’t be accused of ducking anybody. This is his 21st fight and he’s got a better resume of any active heavyweight.

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Shut the **** up bird. What world do we live in where boxing fans don't want to see the best fight the best? Whyte is better than AJ? ****in clowns

No where did I say the Whyte fight is better than the AJ fight. In fact read further back and I said the contrary.

Of course we all want to see AJ v Wilder. The problem is Wilder’s team have been quick to reject offers but haven’t made a single offer of their own. It takes two fighters to make a fight.

The upside for the Whyte fight is that

1) It’s a good fight. Whyte would be a top 5 win for Wilder which speaks volumes for Wilder’s resume.

2) If it’s in the UK, Wilder can demand a better split against AJ if he beats Whyte because his stock goes up.

I certainly won’t be too bothered if Whyte v Wilder and AJ v Povetkin is made for August. Seeing as Joshua v Wilder probably wouldn’t take place until Nov/Dec anyway.

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I said it would go down like this from the beginning and it was the arrogant/ignorant Joshua fans that convinced me otherwise.

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So once Again Hearn says something different. He had many of you fools repeating none stop that such a stipulation was not possible.

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he’s got a better resume of any active heavyweight.

very debatable. he gets a lot of credit for the klitschko win because klitschko is a big name and a legendary fighter, but klitschko was coming off an embarrassing loss and a year and a half of rust.

AJ has zero wins against guys who were ranked among the very best in the world when he faced them.

wilder now has two wins against guys who were ranked among the very best in the world when he faced them.

stiverne was #2 or #3 in the world according to most experts, king kong was #3 or #4 in the world according to most experts. klitschko was unranked due to inactivity.

so it's really not so cut and dry anymore who has the better resume. even if AJ beats parker, parker hasn't beaten anybody and is only #7 according to boxrec. wilder & AJ have very comparable resumes no matter how you slice it.

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Beyontay? Post a video of you right now so we can see how tough you are. Wilder the WBC champ that just knocked out the guy Joshua ducked doesn't deserve a unification? Post a video of you so we can see how tough an internet G is dissing HW boxing Champs. You're a buzzard

I can call him any name I want homey, he;s a public figure.
What's the answer? What is Beyontae crying about?
If he wants AJ why is he not making any offers?
What is he, a beggar? The guy is promoted by Haymon and backed by Showtime.
Are these people totally incapacitated to make any offers of their own?
Hearn is not the only player in the game.
He can be made useless in the overall grand scheme of things.
Think about it!

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Ok, so when it was Warren promoting Hatton and Calzaghe, on Sky, credit goes to Warren.

But when it’s Hearn credit goes to Sky?

You can’t have it both ways.

And I’ve addressed your point about Hearn only bringing through a handful of fighters of his own. Warren’s been in the game for like 40 years. Hearn, a 5th of that. Instead of bringing through a load of new fighters, Hearn did what Warren couldn’t do with the likes of Brook, Bellew, and what Fat Mick couldn’t do with Froch, give them cross over appeal and make them into stars.

Boxing was a niche sport whilst Warren was fannying about with cards headlined by Nicky Cook and whilst Mick Hennessy had Carl Froch defend against Jermaine Taylor with no UK TV coverage. It’s now one of the biggest sports in the UK.

Sky are definitely a big factor in those fighter’s success, but let’s not pretend that Warren and the likes would have done anywhere near as good because he didn’t, Brook and Bellew are much bigger names with Hearn.

Take Calzaghe for fùck sake, look at some of the shít he was put in with, and even so he never got the box office money that Froch got with Hearn.

Joshua for now might be one of a few fighter’s Hearn has brought through, but he’s easily the best example of a fighter being promoted in this country. No other has been in so many fights. Fact.


I also don’t buy into fanboy crap. I’m not 14. Warren had the better year for non PPV cards last year. But so far this year it’s been awful, Warren needs to step it up.

Warren gets credit for taking an unknown Welsh fighter with a half decent amateur career and guiding him into being one of the greatest fighters this country has ever produced. Not for earning him marketing opportunities through Sky.

Boxing has NEVER been a
niche sport in the UK, now I know for a fact you didn’t follow boxing during the period and certainly didn’t attend shows, do you not remember Hatton taking 30,000 fans over to Vegas. Yeah it was really a niche sport before Hearn😭😭😭 Pathetic.
I was one of the 30,000 and the atmosphere and buzz that fight generated was far superior to anything Hearn has produced, hell, even Hatton-Tszyu in the MEN was a way better atmosphere than any of these corny Matchroom “events”.

Anyway, I’ve said what I need to say, people who know; know. People who understand boxing know exactly what Hearn is. People who don’t will continue to drink the kool aid and sing “sweet Caroline” with the rest of the Eddie Hearn cult. Go and speak to REAL boxing men like Hobson, Steve Wood, Barry McGuigan etc they’ll all tell you exactly what Hearn is...

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very debatable. he gets a lot of credit for the klitschko win because klitschko is a big name and a legendary fighter, but klitschko was coming off an embarrassing loss and a year and a half of rust.

AJ has zero wins against guys who were ranked among the very best in the world when he faced them.

wilder now has two wins against guys who were ranked among the very best in the world when he faced them.

stiverne was #2 or #3 in the world according to most experts, king kong was #3 or #4 in the world according to most experts. klitschko was unranked due to inactivity.

so it's really not so cut and dry anymore who has the better resume. even if AJ beats parker, parker hasn't beaten anybody and is only #7 according to boxrec. wilder & AJ have very comparable resumes no matter how you slice it.

you are the incredible rankings flip flop man. when the ring says wlad was #1 you use the trans national rankings, when parker is ranked #3 in the trans national rankings you use boxrec, when box rec has someone high you will use the ring or some other rankings. hilarious.

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you are the incredible rankings flip flop man. when the ring says wlad was #1 you use the trans national rankings, when parker is ranked #3 in the trans national rankings you use boxrec, when box rec has someone high you will use the ring or some other rankings. hilarious.

It's not flip flopping at all. Stiverne and King Kong were top 5 guys in almost every major ranking system. That is not the case with Parker. That was not the case with Klitschko.

I'm pointing out the pros and cons of each guy. If I was flip flopping, I would just say Stiverne was #2 or that King Kong was #3. But to be accurate, I've admitted Stiverne was #2 in some, but #3 in others. Or that King Kong was #3 in some, but #4 in others. Either way, they were more highly regarded than Parker is.

And while Klitschko was a great win commercially, you can't just ignore that he looked old against Jennings, did nothing against Fury, and then sat on the shelf for 18 months. If you're being honest and accurate, AJ & Wilder have very similar resumes.

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Back to square one. Wilder asking for ****** stipulations again. Impossible to put Joshua in the Whyte contract without having everything agreed to for a Joshua fight. Wilder knows this but is trying to fool the ******ed yanks he wants the fight.

Impossible to guarantee a Joshua fight unless they also agree on purse splits, venue etc... an if they can get to that stage then why in god's name would we need to see Wilder v Whyte when we could just see Wilder v Joshua?!

How could you possibly give one fighter as a guarantee for another fighter? have you no honour (HONOR)? and how can you give a guarantee without the main fight being agreed? like how would you do that legally without Wilder then being able to demand a higher %.

What kind of **** move is that? Whyte is nothing to do with Joshua apart from the same promoter, that is some disrespectful **** right there to do to someone (make them a makeweight in a deal), no, Whyte and Hearn believe he beats Wilder (accept that, he will back him like he does every fighter, and your make believe contracts and making Whyte the carrot in ANY deal will NEVER happen) he is the WBC #1 and coming into his prime. He is on his OWN journey. Why are you disrespecting people now that you have a guy you like and want to get the big fight? What about Whyte? does he not deserve a shot now? What about Wilder previous 6 fights!???? lol

Why are you so against Wilder fighting a legit #1 guy? because it suits the narrative of AJ ducking Wilder (he's fighting Saturday and actually making moves to unify the division which Wilder claims to want to do but never has come close to).

Hypocrisy at its finest. You are really quite bias on here. You think Wilder is now the solidified #2 after beating an old Ortiz, he done nothing before that, NOTHING!

There's numerous HW's out there that will beat Wilder, and at least 2 CW's. Wilder is the most protected and built-up HW's out there. And he is terrible at boxing!

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=776938

But but this is not possible?????????

Sounding like a bunch of parrots just repeating whatever Hearns says from interview to interview. Bad thing about repeating Hearn's talking points is he changes what he says from interview to interview. He is always all over the place.