Stephen A. Smith and Max Kellerman Defending Doping Again

[_Maxi]

Clenbuterol is NOT a masking agent. It as a medicine for Asthma, similar to Advair (if you're knowledgeable of brand names). It dilates your bronchioles which allows more oxygen to pass through...which is important when you're having an ASTHMA attack (bronchioles CONSTRICT - REDUCED O2 passage).

Clenbuterol also increases metabolism since the receptors involved (Beta 2 Agonists) exist in more areas of your body than just your airways. So this also helps "burn fat". It does not - IN ANY WAY - build muscle. A product of BURNING FAT...results in INCREASED MUSCLE PERCENTAGE.

THERE'S NO MUSCLE BUILDING. This is why bodybuilders, cyclists, and boxers have used Clen as they approach competition...lose as much body fat % as possible.





However, using the drug ~10 weeks out of competition makes zero sense at all. It offers no benefit. This is important:

Skeletal muscle turnover occurs in 3-30 days (depending on diet, activity, genetics, etc.). I can give you all the "studies" and "science" you need, but your muscles don't last forever which is why you "lose it" if you don't "use it".

PED's THAT FAR OUT MEAN NOTHING. And Clen isn't a PED unless it was used to MAKE WEIGHT OR on the DAY OF FIGHT for STAMINA (which is what cyclists used it for - increased airway of bronchioles).

Even if Canelo used Clenbuterol only to burn fat and keep muscle, it's still a PED.

But evidence shows it also helps gaining some muscle.

Clenbuterol, fed for 1 wk, increased the wet weight of the gastrocnemius, soleus, and extensor digitorum longus muscles (15-23%) in both normal and D + I ****. Although clenbuterol increased body weight gain, it did not alter feed consumption and, therefore, feed efficiency (g gain/g food) was improved. Activities of cathepsin B and N-acetyl-beta-glucosaminidase, but not cathepsin D, were elevated in the soleus muscles of clenbuterol-treated ****. The clenbuterol-induced increase in muscle growth in the insulin-replaced diabetic **** indicated that this beta-adrenergic agonist effect was not mediated by an alteration of circulating levels of insulin, secondary to beta-agonist action on pancreatic insulin release.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3310657

Clenbuterol treatment increased the weight of skeletal muscles 22% to 39% in 3-month-old ****, 19% to 35% in 12-month-old ****, and 22% to 25% in 23-month-old animals. Likewise, clenbuterol increased carcass protein content 19% in 3-month-old ****, 16% in 12-month-old ****, and 24% in 23-month-old animals. Conversely, the drug reduced carcass fat content 36% in 3-month-old ****, 32% in 12-month-old ****, and 38% in 23-month-old ****. Therefore, clenbuterol had similar anabolic and catabolic effects in all age groups. In addition, clenbuterol stimulated recovery of skeletal muscle protein lost following pump implantation in senescent ****.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1861634

Clenbuterol is not only used to burn fat, it's used to generate muscle mass as well. It has both effects.

[Slicc]

Canelo has 5 years of clean drug testing using VADA 365 program.

Lance Armstrong was never caught doping, and if it weren't for his admission, nobody would've known that he was all along.

He tests positive for a substance notorious in Mexico related to their meat. The NFL has warned its players about Mexican meat. FIFA has warned its players about Mexican meat. Boxers, weight lifters, athletes, etc. have tested positive specifically for Clenbuterol in the past.

Which is why there's no way Clenelo and his team couldn't have known about this issue. You're telling me he couldn't import his beef from another country, not eat Mexican beef or train outside of Mexico? If he didn't take clen intentionally, him and his team are still dumbasses for not doing anything to avoid this situation. I wanna know why VADA didn't administer a hair test on Clenelo, after he tested positive the 1st time. Matter of fact, they still haven't done a hair test on him, even after the 2nd positive test. This is sus.

It is not an anabolic steroid. It is an asthma medication that - 10 weeks away from a fight - offers virtually Z E R O performance enhancement.

Whether or not it's an anabolic steroid is irrelevant, because it's still a banned substance under WADA. Also, it does give enhance your performance: http://aretheyonsteroids.com/clenbuterol-benefits/

The whining on this board is basically limited to this board. I don't hear my casual friends whine about anything. They ask a question or two, I reply with basic facts (it's an asthmatic medication that has also been used for weight loss) and they discard the entire situation.

They aren't "whining," because you haven't told them the whole truth, which I kindly provided a link to, above.

There's no "juicing" going on, but there are people outright calling for Canelo to be "BANNED" and calling him PEDophile. LMFAO?

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Can't wait till May 6th. The video clips of GGG getting FLOORED and BUSTED UP will be ENDLESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSSSS

Clenelo failed 2 tests, and 2 sanctioning bodies jumped to his defense. Not only that, but De La Coka left out why Clenelo's test results were being investigated in the 1st place. Why wouldn't he get clowned? This is corruption at its finest, and your antics aren't making things any better.

[HarvardBlue]

The fight is too big to fail. Everyone involved is doing and saying all the right things to ensure the fight happens. Golovkin must've went off script when he flat out accused Canelo of being a long time cheater. In a way he forced the commission to suspend Canelo but we all know the suspension is for show. They're doing a terrible job of trying to garner interest in this fight. Casual fans aren't interested in anything leading up to the fight. If the PED story keep getting bigger that kind of attention won't help boxing in the long term. Especially if law makers get involved like they did with baseball.

[Street15]

Even if Canelo used Clenbuterol only to burn fat and keep muscle, it's still a PED.

But evidence shows it also helps gaining some muscle.

Exactly. There's a reason it's banned in every sport, in every country. I've been seeing people trying to justify Clen by comparing it to the prototypical anabolic steroid. Newsflash, those are banned too. Just like steroids, Clen is labeled as a PED banned substance.

It's this simple: if it's banned, it's illegal - if you take an illegal substance labeled as a PED, you're looking to get an unfair/unnatural competitive advantage - which is good ol' fashioned CHEATING.

We as fans don't get to decide what drugs should and shouldn't be on the banned list. Nor do we get to decide which banned PEDs should be taken more seriously than the others. They're banned for a reason people.

By the way, if it didn't produce the ability to add mass in mammals (in any capacity), why do farmers even bother to continue to administer it in their livestock (which is absolutely proven to make livestock bigger)??? Just a thought.

[BLASTER1]

I find it hard to believe that he unintentionally ingested clen i mean cmon hes the best paid boxer in the sport with all his paid nutritious and paid people to make and deliver his meals plus all his minders how does this tainted meat get thru??

[satiev1]

Canelo has 5 years of clean drug testing using VADA 365 program.

He tests positive for a substance notorious in Mexico related to their meat. The NFL has warned its players about Mexican meat. FIFA has warned its players about Mexican meat. Boxers, weight lifters, athletes, etc. have tested positive specifically for Clenbuterol in the past.

It is not an anabolic steroid. It is an asthma medication that - 10 weeks away from a fight - offers virtually Z E R O performance enhancement.

The whining on this board is basically limited to this board. I don't hear my casual friends whine about anything. They ask a question or two, I reply with basic facts (it's an asthmatic medication that has also been used for weight loss) and they discard the entire situation.

There's no "juicing" going on, but there are people outright calling for Canelo to be "BANNED" and calling him PEDophile. LMFAO?

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Can't wait till May 6th. The video clips of GGG getting FLOORED and BUSTED UP will be ENDLESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSSSS

You are so clueless it's sad.

[Clegg]

Canelo has 5 years of clean drug testing using VADA 365 program.

You can't just make up your own facts dude.

[Elroy The Great]

CONCERNING THAT VIDEO CLIP, can someone be just a lil specific as to why SAS is called an idiot

[TonyGe]

Smith and Kellerman are unbelievable. They aren't boxing fans they are parasites who make a living off of the hard work of athletes. Put both of their sorry asses in the ring against someone else that may have cheated and see how generous they are with their opponents who broke the rules. At stake is their job. Winner gets a huge raise loser gets demoted. They both would be crying about how unfair it is. This doesn't just refer to Golovkin. How about lots of other fighters that have been victums of bad decisions, politics, or fighting an opponent that's juiced. They are fine with that as long as it doesn't happen to them. No wonder Teddy Atlas quit. Having to deal with these two *******s must have drove him crazy.

[Slicc]

CONCERNING THAT VIDEO CLIP, can someone be just a lil specific as to why SAS is called an idiot

SAS pretty much wants NSAC to sweep this whole Clenelo situation under the rug, just for the rematch. I think that's enough to deem anyone an idiot.