Comments Thread For: Malignaggi: Only F***ing Morons Didn't Realize Canelo is Dirty!

[Elroy The Great]

But he lost, so you could say he did fight differently

no you cant. the other guy was just better.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Of course he was cheating ! You can’t look like him without drugs!

It’s his weakness he knew he couldn’t win without the drugs. And he DIDNT WIN HE LOST!! Corrupt judging Robbed GGG of his win !

This is sic but I ask will TRUTH PREVAIL? Corruption LOVES money and cares not how it’s obtained!! I think a grave misfortune of a wretched coverup is coming forthwith!

:burner:

[SHO_RULEZ]

What is with Paulie and his PED crusade? Does he feel like some of his loses should be taken back? With Pac man, I thought Paulie was trying to talk his way into a mega fight paycheck.

Here he is again. I guess it's how he vents his frustration with the sport.

[Floyd Junior]

I have no problem with Paulie holding that opinion.

But if he’s so passionately against drug cheats and believes all of the elite guys are on it, I have to question why he’s vocal against some and licks the arse of others?

[BigStomps]

I give all fighters the benefit of the doubt until they fail a test or if they go from looking like world beaters to regular once they're under testing. But what made me su****ious of Canelo was the Beefy fight when he pulled out of testing. That was his first fight back at 154. Even if Beefy pulled out of VADA testing that doesn't mean Canelo had to pull out. And then they lied about Canelo being tested by VADA and got caught. I was su****ious but still wasn't ready to call him a cheater until there was hard proof.

Yes I remember that both Beefy and Canelo cancelled the VADA testing at the last minute. If I recall it was Beefy who refused to do VADA testing. I always assumed that if one fighter didn't wanna do VADA then VADA would just simply not test either fighter. What's the point of testing only one fighter??
But what do you mean about Canelo lying about VADA testing? When was this??
I also won't call a fighter a cheater until there's proof. Now I'm a Canelo fan but do I completely buy his tainted meat story? Of course not!
I wanna believe he's a clean fighter but he did test dirty so I won't be a hypocrite. I'm still waiting for the Nevada commission to complete it's investigation and for Canelo to speak on the matter before I pass judgement. If it turns out he did cheat intentionally then he should definitely be suspended and made to pay a huge fine.
Sad thing is we'll probably never know. Either way Canelo should be tested year round from now on and more frequently.

['b']

Malignaggi is practically a genius with his hindsight is 20/20 opinion...

In his own mind anyway

[tokon]

Someone made a comment on here the other day about Bellew's remarks on Canelo saying something to the effect of, "How would Bellew know if Canelo was dirty?" and when you start realizing that all of these guys have much more knowledge about PED's in boxing, and they're on the inside--knowing the difference of physical appearance, when people have 12 round energy that they didn't before, how they can all of a sudden make weight comfortably, training with guys that are doing it, etc etc. You're starting to see more and more boxers and promoters coming forward saying it wasn't the meat. Hearn has no stake in either fighter, Paulie is retired, Bellew isn't in their weight class, Robert Garcia laughed at the meat defense, and it's going to keep growing unfortunately. The worst part is, some fans are taking it personally and saying some pretty nasty things to other fight fans on here with opposing opinions, and I get it--nobody wants to hear that their favorite athlete is a potential cheat. I like both of these guys, but I was reading an article from Dan Rafael today where he said the temporary suspension was a shock and it's making it sound like the fight has a better chance of NOT going forward than actually happening. He went on to site examples of Nevada putting the kibosh on past fights. The "go watch bowling, bro" comment Paulie made had me laughing, though.

That's right, the people in the business know the business!

The fighters, coaches, managers, know what goes on and - most of the time - who is doing it. They don't speak out because 1. they're doing it too, or 2. fear of being ostracised/sued.

[petegrif]

Travicat nailed it

Excellent summary

In a way it's like the situation with women and sexual harassment. Everyone knew it was happening but it was hard to prove and wasn't talked about a lot. Then the damn broke and tech like Twitter made it easier for people to come forward.

There is a real change underway in boxing in terms of awareness about ped use and readiness to speak out. Pauli isn't the only one. Dissing him changes nothing.

The women all knew, the cyclists all knew, the body builders all knew, the baseball players all knew, etcetc. Insiders always know. It's just the same in boxing. They may not talk about it for obvious reasons but they know. And it is starting to be exposed.

Ps. ****** comebacks about women or Pauli change nothing.

[Elroy The Great]

Travicat nailed it

Excellent summary

In a way it's like the situation with women and sexual harassment. Everyone knew it was happening but it was hard to prove and wasn't talked about a lot. Then the damn broke and tech like Twitter made it easier for people to come forward.

There is a real change underway in boxing in terms of awareness about led us and readiness to speak out. Pauli isn't the only one. During him changes nothing.

The women all knew, the cyclists all knew, the body builders all knew, the baseball players all knew, etcetc. Insides know. It's just the same I'm boxing. They may not talk about it for obvious reasons but they know. And it is starting to be exposed.

Ps. ****** comebacks about women or Pauli change nothing.

PTI .....

surely it isnt hard to leave a paper trail leading to a **** case.

but if a woman is going to keep her head lips sealed for 15+ years..........fnck em

[BigStomps]

Real simple : the gain in muscle size over a short period of time

You are a fool if you think someone is on PED's just cause they gain muscle mass.
Canelo has always had a very muscular physique. Of course he's gonna gain muscle since moving to the middleweight division. Those extra 6 pounds he's gained is all muscle and you can tell!
You must be one fat, greasy, sloppy bastard to think you can't gain muscle just by simply working out and eating healthy.
I know you can cause I used to be muscular like Canelo in my mid 20's and I've never took ANY supplements or PED's in my life! I just ate Alot of food and worked out like a beast. So yes it's possible to be super muscular without any PED's!