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  • #41
    Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
    90k AJ vs. Klitschko = £8 million gate

    14k Calzaghe vs. Hopkins = $11 mil

    Calzaghe vs. Hopkins was a bigger fight that AJ vs. Wilder now?
    So, what about this?

    Eddie Hearn has revealed to the BBC that the fight was purchased over 1.5 million times in the UK alone - a British record, and roughly 1.2 million higher than Joshua's last three Sky Sports Box Office fights.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
      Listen. I understand you finally have nice things and you dont wanna see another one of your stars come over here & get mollywhopped. I couldn't imagine living thru that my whole life. Enjoy your nice thing
      Ehem... Lennox Lewis and Joe Calzaghe... UK is the size of Texas, stop comparing the US and UK.Just count yourself lucky the UK is not the same size of America or you would get smashed in every sport never mind Boxing.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Tygshsu View Post
        Ehem... Lennox Lewis and Joe Calzaghe... UK is the size of Texas, stop comparing the US and UK.Just count yourself lucky the UK is not the same size of America or you would get smashed in every sport never mind Boxing.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
          He's said he doesn't care if he never fights in the U.S. or becomes a star over here.

          Meanwhile Wilder & Parker are willing to travel the world to defend their WORLD titles. Parker even traveled as the A side against Hughie

          Joshua is happy in his safe space. I just don't think this guy has the mentally of a great WORLD champion. Wilder & Parker are following in the steps of Ali.

          .
          Don’t let facts get in the way of your argument but here’s some stats for you on wilder. Since winning the title his fights have been at following locations:

          Molina, Alabama, US
          Duhaupas, Alabama, US
          Szpilka, New York, US
          Arreola, alabama, US
          Washington, Alabama, US
          Stiverne, New York, US
          Ortiz, New York, US

          Parker has rightfully travelled , but it was inevitable with lack of domestic fighters to both compete with and fill an undercard. Wilder on the other hand , has, to date, defended in only one country - Joshua has two.
          Last edited by Kezzer; 03-25-2018, 02:11 PM.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
            Barry Hearn said the fight makes more money in America.

            When Calzaghe-Hopkins has a higher gate in Vegas than Joshua-Klitscko & Cotto-Alvarez generates more revenue than Joshua-Klitschko its kinda hard to argue the money is in the UK & not Vegas
            Gate money is peanuts compared to PPV and other forms of revenue. AJ v Klitschko did £8m at the gate (about $14m), Bhop v Calzaghe did $11m. From what i'm reading AJ v Takam did £10m at the gate which is about $16/17m which would mean only 4 fights in Vegas have ever done more EVER.

            If they fight in the U.S, they'd definitely lose a lot of UK revenue which is massive for AJ. That's due to the timing of the fight (4am UK time) and less promotion on the ground. Wilder isn't even a big name in the U.S, the guy does terribly in drawing power at the gate. AJ could fight a coke dealer and draw more people in than Wilder.

            The gate will be lower in the U.S, UK PPV will be reduced but there will be more U.S PPV so it's up to the finance guys to figure out what they can muster for each in terms of purses, PPV projections and gate projections. If it is a minor difference, it'll be held in the UK. As it will be easier for Matchroom to promote and AJ will have home field advantage.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by hayZ View Post
              Gate money is peanuts compared to PPV and other forms of revenue. AJ v Klitschko did £8m at the gate (about $14m), Bhop v Calzaghe did $11m. From what i'm reading AJ v Takam did £10m at the gate which is about $16/17m which would mean only 4 fights in Vegas have ever done more EVER.

              If they fight in the U.S, they'd definitely lose a lot of UK revenue which is massive for AJ. That's due to the timing of the fight (4am UK time) and less promotion on the ground. Wilder isn't even a big name in the U.S, the guy does terribly in drawing power at the gate. AJ could fight a coke dealer and draw more people in than Wilder.

              The gate will be lower in the U.S, UK PPV will be reduced but there will be more U.S PPV so it's up to the finance guys to figure out what they can muster for each in terms of purses, PPV projections and gate projections. If it is a minor difference, it'll be held in the UK. As it will be easier for Matchroom to promote and AJ will have home field advantage.
              You just ignored everything I posted and made up your own alternative facts. I just showed how a non mega fight in the U.S. does a bigger gate than 90k in the UK. You still wanna ignore it.

              A million people in the UK bought Pacquiao-Mayweather and that came on at what, 4am? So you telling me they won't buy Wilder vs AJ at 4am? But I thought AJ was a big star in the UK. Ya'll are contradicting yourselves.

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              • #47
                This thread is utter Stereotypical American arrogance & narcissism.

                Joshua is already a megastar & outside of maybe Canelo (debatable) he's the biggest young draw in boxing globally so why should he care SO much about the yanks? If he wants to grow his brand in the states then he can, but he doesn't need America as he's already a MUCH BIGGER star than any Amercian in boxing today.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
                  You just ignored everything I posted and made up your own alternative facts. I just showed how a non mega fight in the U.S. does a bigger gate than 90k in the UK. You still wanna ignore it.

                  A million people in the UK bought Pacquiao-Mayweather and that came on at what, 4am? So you telling me they won't buy Wilder vs AJ at 4am? But I thought AJ was a big star in the UK. Ya'll are contradicting yourselves.
                  Pac-Mayweather was literally once in a lifetime kind of matchup....or at least once in a generation. Tyson Fury v AJ would be a bigger fight than Wilder-AJ, forget MayPac.

                  How did you show it? Your example of Bhop-Calzaghe did less than AJ's gates lol.

                  A million people bought MayPac in the UK, people used to stay up for their fights every time they fought, can the same be said for Wilder? We certainly haven't seen the case be made for AJ as he hasn't fought abroad.

                  I didn't say they wouldn't buy it in the UK if they fought at that time but it's a massive factor. Would it affect yanks abroad if they had to stay up until 4am to watch a fight? of course it would.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
                    I understand this is the first time in your lifetime your country has had the best fighter. Totally understandable for you to want to hold onto this feeling forever.
                    For the first time in his life time the UK has the best fighter?

                    Do you really believe this or are you mentally ill?

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
                      The last time the UK had the best HW he didn't even want to fight there. That should tell you a lot
                      What Fury?

                      Or you mean Lennox Lewis? Lewis fought in the US because the money was there plus with the reputation of Americans never wanting to travel he didn't have any choice.

                      Lennox did have some big fights in the UK though with Bruno, Ruddock, McCall and Botha.

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