Face facts, Hearn is the best promoter in the game

[R_Walken]

What constitutes a star? By my estimation the biggest indicator would be what they earn, social media hits, gate, etc. Who are Top Rank's biggest stars? Pacquiao obviously, (not sure if he's still with them) but after that probably Crawford and Lomachenko. They are certainly the best two fighters in the world for my money, but in all fairness Scott Quigg has probably earned as much as Lomachenko since Loma turned pro, and Quigg's definitely not the star that Lomachenko is. On the flip side - two fighters who are THAT good, and have accomplished as much as Crawford and Loma have, how are they not bigger stars, and how are they not earning more money???

There is no doubting Top Rank's credentials and history, but its kind of unfair to compare and use that against Eddie Hearn, who has only been prevalent for the last 4-5 years. So we should be talking about the here and now, and the recent past.

Hearn has made several fighters multimillionaires, not just Joshua. Froch, Brook, Bellew, Degale (part) have all earned multimillions with Hearn. On top of that people like Crolla, Quigg, Whyte, have all earned 7 figures. He has turned Katie Taylor a women boxer into a headliner.

You might not like the man, but you can't argue with his results in such a short time. The opportunities he has provided for Luke Campbell, the Smith brothers, and Kal Yafai also can't be overlooked.

Its arguable if Lou Dibella is putting on the best fights, is he even behind the match making for Wilder? Who are his fighters? Wilder, Zlaticinin, Indongo, Who else?

The fight of the year last year was Joshua-Klitschko. Already we have had Quigg-Valdez, Parker-Joshua next week, and some seriously good fights ahead from Matchroom. He's also not afraid to take a risk, and match his fighters with other stables, which we certainly can't say about Top Rank. I think he is the best promoter today, by a distance.

Sure man keep believing Hearns the greatest

Just because at this point he gets in front of the camera non stop and promotes himself more then his fights/ fighters doesn’t mean it’s true


Hearn good no doubt but he isn’t #1 he has a great market to work with and can sell British fans dog sh.it headliners like Okoalie / Chamberlain or Burns /Corolla and they still buy it

Most of his fights with his main guys he puts on aren’t competitive

He honestly doesn’t really put on that many good fights per year the last 6 months

Jacobs vs Arias / Sulecki
AJ / Takam
Okalie / Chamberlain
Khan / Greco
Brook / Rabchenko

All sh.it only 2 fights that are decent coming up is AJ / Parker and Bellew / Haye

Quigg was given to Top Rank , Matchroom had nothing to do with that show . Quigg in the last couple years has had 2 big fights and 2 decent paydays and neither Hearn was responsible for. Beside those Quigg is getting buried on undercards in Monte Carlo in front of 100 people


Yeah he made Joshua and Froch great $ and made Bellew good $ off Hayes name. He never got Brook these great paydays fighting no name scrubs until Hearn let Gennady probably ruin his career essentially selling him and his career down the river for his own gain

Degeale probably made more $ since he signed with Haymon then every fighter at Matchroom with the exception of AJ.

What buzz has he generated with Jacobs ?

He spends more time jerking himself off then promoting his fighters now and fighters not named AJ

Like eff Pandas states there’s a Hearns is #1 thread created by UK fan girls every couple weeks who just want to say how great he is and give ****** f.ucking slogans like earn with Hearn and think he’s going to sign everyone under the sun from Errol Spence to Tyson Fury because he’s this Svengali but he’s not he’s just a good promoter with 1 star and a strong market behind him

[ashadam]

No other promoter creates such hype around his fighters and he's been involved in massive events consistently over the years, throwing his fighters into dangerous fights. Like it or Not, if Spence and Thurman were UK fighters under Hearn they'd be commercial superstars. There's no doubt he's the top dog in promoting.

Spot on he is certainly the man at the moment.

[RussB23]

Best promoter hands down i never get why hes hated on. Hes always putting in work and making good fights. Hes like the only promoter you see really out there all the time giving interviews and hyping **** whether its in the US or UK.

[Kezzer]

People think he really got lucky with Joshua, which is true to some extent but don’t under estimate a few things he did - would other promoters have done the same?

He managed to get him in the first place when he still hadn’t fought.

He showcased him on sky shows from the off, including some big matches e.g froch groves 2

He built up his fights really well, his choice of opponents was exceptional really in terms of build up

He took a gamble by overpaying Martin to put the belt on the line against Joshua; easy to say that was a no brainer now, but he could have easily lost money on that - he was ******** for the future

He ensured that another fight for the world title (breazeale) was made almost immediatly to ensure the hype continued to grow; he didn’t allow it to fade at all.

There were obviously other things he did, but the above were all clear ways he positively impacted Joshua.

[sunny31]

Sure man keep believing Hearns the greatest

Just because at this point he gets in front of the camera non stop and promotes himself more then his fights/ fighters doesn’t mean it’s true


Hearn good no doubt but he isn’t #1 he has a great market to work with and can sell British fans dog sh.it headliners like Okoalie / Chamberlain or Burns /Corolla and they still buy it

Most of his fights with his main guys he puts on aren’t competitive

He honestly doesn’t really put on that many good fights per year the last 6 months

Jacobs vs Arias / Sulecki
AJ / Takam
Okalie / Chamberlain
Khan / Greco
Brook / Rabchenko

All sh.it only 2 fights that are decent coming up is AJ / Parker and Bellew / Haye

Quigg was given to Top Rank , Matchroom had nothing to do with that show . Quigg in the last couple years has had 2 big fights and 2 decent paydays and neither Hearn was responsible for. Beside those Quigg is getting buried on undercards in Monte Carlo in front of 100 people


Yeah he made Joshua and Froch great $ and made Bellew good $ off Hayes name. He never got Brook these great paydays fighting no name scrubs until Hearn let Gennady probably ruin his career essentially selling him and his career down the river for his own gain

Degeale probably made more $ since he signed with Haymon then every fighter at Matchroom with the exception of AJ.

What buzz has he generated with Jacobs ?

He spends more time jerking himself off then promoting his fighters now and fighters not named AJ

Like eff Pandas states there’s a Hearns is #1 thread created by UK fan girls every couple weeks who just want to say how great he is and give ****** f.ucking slogans like earn with Hearn and think he’s going to sign everyone under the sun from Errol Spence to Tyson Fury because he’s this Svengali but he’s not he’s just a good promoter with 1 star and a strong market behind him

Childish opening to be honest. But I will try and address all points, a lot of which I disagree with.

Its not about thinking he is the greatest but for someone who has followed this sport for over 20 years, he is breath of fresh air. He has taken the cloak and dagger approach out of boxing, he is transparent with his fighters, and as such they become partners on the event rather than just giving them a purse.

He promotes himself? Probably a little bit, but he spends most of his time talking about his fighters and fights, he spends time with mainstream media outlets where possible; including radio (Talk Sport) and TV, he spends lots of time and interviews on various YouTube channels, because he knows how important they are in reaching fans, and hardcore fans in particular, I think Hearn understands social media is a powerful tool at a time when many promoters are not maximising these opportunities at all. A lot of these long time promoters think they are above these social media platforms, and that shows their arrogance and it is ultimately to their detriment. Hearn puts the time and work in.

Okolie-Chamberlain on paper was a great matchup, which was being demanded by the boxing fraternity as well as both fighters so Hearn made it. I don't think anyone could have guessed what a terrible fight it turned into, and anyway the fighting is not Hearn's job, his job was to find agreeable terms, and then promote the fight to its maximum capacity, and I think he did that. Both guys made a lot of money - but for sure the fight didn't deliver considering you had two young, ambitious guys.

Burns-Crolla - not the most appealing fight as I'm not really a big fan of either guy, but again a good fight, a crossroads fight and gave both guys a good pay day in a situation where they were both coming off losses.

BTW both of these fights were on normal Sky so not sure what the complaint is here.

Your timing is impeccable, criticising Hearn for not putting on competitive fights yet he just put on a really good card only tonight with twists, turns, highlight reel KO's and upsets.

Quigg-Valdez had nothing to do with Hearn? He only negotiated Quigg a great purse I guess and got the fight on Sky. There is two aspects to his job, you understand.

Quigg-Frampton had nothing to do with Hearn? He co-promoted it, it was on Sky PPV??

He made Bellew $ off Haye's name? Yes that was Bellew's biggest pay day, but he only put himself in that position because of a long winning run, which culminated with winning the WBC title in a stadium fight in his hometown!! Made possible by you know who.

Brook from the Hatton fight, made 6 figures in every fight up until the the Golovkin fight, that is 10 fights of purses which ranged between £250-500k, maybe a bit more for the Gavin fight. As far as Golovkin, I kind of agree with you, I am not sure it was the right move for his legacy and career. They could have maybe been more patient. But lets not ignore the fact that Brook made the decision to take the fight. He also made at least £3 million ($4.25 million), which is retirement money. It was a tough call, he was having big problems making 147, and 154 at that time was even more stacked then it is now. I guess Hearn thought he had nothing to lose, and if he puts in a performance, his stock goes up anyway, which kind of happened, but the negative was the facial injury. I think overall it was a tough call, and possibly the wrong one, although Brook himself and his bank account might disagree.

You say Hearn doesn't make competitive fights with his main guys, but he to Brook to the US to fight Porter, and then put him in with Golovkin, and Spence. Froch was competitive fight after competitive fight. AJ has moved along at a serious pace in his career, and has been in competitive fights with Whyte and Klitschko. It seems like he will make the fights, if the reward is worth the risk, whether it be financial, profile, a title, or all of the above.

He hasn't yet done much with Jacobs, but it hasn't really been very long, lets give it time. At least he is fighting again after 5 months, that is the best way to get yourself out there is to stay active. He fought once in 16, and once in 17, so its already an improvement.

Eff Pandas also said he is currently the best promoter. You can't just take selective information, I don't think their are fan girls of Eddie Hearn, but its good to recognise someone's good work, and maybe some of these guys are patriotic that he is British. Personally I don't care where a fighter or promoter is from, if they do a good job, I give them credit.

[Stinger1]

Let's be real, who would you rather see interviewed more than Hearn? De La Hoya? Mayweather? Arum? Di Bella? Duva? Schaefer? Eddie is great at what he does and any smart fighter would be signing with him especially as he does business with Haymon as well as Top Rank and Golden Boy. He can make fights with anybody.

[sunny31]

Let's be real, who would you rather see interviewed more than Hearn? De La Hoya? Mayweather? Arum? Di Bella? Duva? Schaefer? Eddie is great at what he does and any smart fighter would be signing with him especially as he does business with Haymon as well as Top Rank and Golden Boy. He can make fights with anybody.

The guy is pure entertainment, and you can tell he is really invested in his fighters careers.

[R_Walken]

Childish opening to be honest. But I will try and address all points, a lot of which I disagree with.

Its not about thinking he is the greatest but for someone who has followed this sport for over 20 years, he is breath of fresh air. He has taken the cloak and dagger approach out of boxing, he is transparent with his fighters, and as such they become partners on the event rather than just giving them a purse.

He promotes himself? Probably a little bit, but he spends most of his time talking about his fighters and fights, he spends time with mainstream media outlets where possible; including radio (Talk Sport) and TV, he spends lots of time and interviews on various YouTube channels, because he knows how important they are in reaching fans, and hardcore fans in particular, I think Hearn understands social media is a powerful tool at a time when many promoters are not maximising these opportunities at all. A lot of these long time promoters think they are above these social media platforms, and that shows their arrogance and it is ultimately to their detriment. Hearn puts the time and work in.

Okolie-Chamberlain on paper was a great matchup, which was being demanded by the boxing fraternity as well as both fighters so Hearn made it. I don't think anyone could have guessed what a terrible fight it turned into, and anyway the fighting is not Hearn's job, his job was to find agreeable terms, and then promote the fight to its maximum capacity, and I think he did that. Both guys made a lot of money - but for sure the fight didn't deliver considering you had two young, ambitious guys.

Burns-Crolla - not the most appealing fight as I'm not really a big fan of either guy, but again a good fight, a crossroads fight and gave both guys a good pay day in a situation where they were both coming off losses.

BTW both of these fights were on normal Sky so not sure what the complaint is here.

Your timing is impeccable, criticising Hearn for not putting on competitive fights yet he just put on a really good card only tonight with twists, turns, highlight reel KO's and upsets.

Quigg-Valdez had nothing to do with Hearn? He only negotiated Quigg a great purse I guess and got the fight on Sky. There is two aspects to his job, you understand.

Quigg-Frampton had nothing to do with Hearn? He co-promoted it, it was on Sky PPV??

He made Bellew $ off Haye's name? Yes that was Bellew's biggest pay day, but he only put himself in that position because of a long winning run, which culminated with winning the WBC title in a stadium fight in his hometown!! Made possible by you know who.

Brook from the Hatton fight, made 6 figures in every fight up until the the Golovkin fight, that is 10 fights of purses which ranged between £250-500k, maybe a bit more for the Gavin fight. As far as Golovkin, I kind of agree with you, I am not sure it was the right move for his legacy and career. They could have maybe been more patient. But lets not ignore the fact that Brook made the decision to take the fight. He also made at least £3 million ($4.25 million), which is retirement money. It was a tough call, he was having big problems making 147, and 154 at that time was even more stacked then it is now. I guess Hearn thought he had nothing to lose, and if he puts in a performance, his stock goes up anyway, which kind of happened, but the negative was the facial injury. I think overall it was a tough call, and possibly the wrong one, although Brook himself and his bank account might disagree.

You say Hearn doesn't make competitive fights with his main guys, but he to Brook to the US to fight Porter, and then put him in with Golovkin, and Spence. Froch was competitive fight after competitive fight. AJ has moved along at a serious pace in his career, and has been in competitive fights with Whyte and Klitschko. It seems like he will make the fights, if the reward is worth the risk, whether it be financial, profile, a title, or all of the above.

He hasn't yet done much with Jacobs, but it hasn't really been very long, lets give it time. At least he is fighting again after 5 months, that is the best way to get yourself out there is to stay active. He fought once in 16, and once in 17, so its already an improvement.

Eff Pandas also said he is currently the best promoter. You can't just take selective information, I don't think their are fan girls of Eddie Hearn, but its good to recognise someone's good work, and maybe some of these guys are patriotic that he is British. Personally I don't care where a fighter or promoter is from, if they do a good job, I give them credit.

First off let me say great rebuttal obviously I don’t agree with a lot what you wrote but still great response

I’ll try and respond to all your points, I used to agree that Hearn was a breath of fresh air and gave honest answers for a promoter but since AJ blew up he’s just comes across as ego driven making it more about him then his fighters or their fights

He’s becoming like a Puff Daddy where it’s about him and promoting himself and his brand and not about the fighters ( musicians ) as the focal point


I 100% agree about Hearn mastering Social Media and other promoters lacking he’s proved he’s the best at it but I think some of it is the other promoters would rather promote their fighters not themselves so they don’t need to be all up in the camera giving interviews taking away attention from their fighters


How can you defend Okalie / Chamberlain as a decent headliner I don’t even care about how the fight turned out neither had proved anything up to that point neither had beaten anyone one worth a sh.it all this proves is that the UK is great at supporting their own. Can you imagine if Showtime put the equivalent on as a headliner they’d be roasted because it’s not good that fight is the equivalent of a GB Espn2 card as far as where the fighters are at in their career with a co-main of cheeseman and Jones that’s absolute sh.it card

Again Burns and Crolla is a good example of a good domestic fight and great support from UK fans but it isn’t a good fight Burns hasn’t beaten a decent fighter in like a decade and Crolla hasn’t beaten a good name his entire career. What would fans say if HBO / Showtime / Espn headlined a fight with 2 guys with 6 Ls who’ve haven’t beaten a decent name and middle of the pack in their division. This is a headline but the reality is it’s not a good fight

Whyte /Browne is a good fight now it’s alright at best , 2 fighters in the top 15 now is the new bar with one being inactive .

you got guys in this thread saying they aren’t looking forward to A Mares /LSC rematch both fighters top 5 with elite scalps on their resume and their last fight was a FOTY candidate but Hearn makes this sh.it and it’s impressive. Double standard much

Yeah Hearn signed off on Quigg and not knocking the fight I thought it was a great fight on paper and even turned out better then I thought it would . Hearn got him the UK $ which seems pretty standard and as he should had it broadcast on sky but he didn’t really have anything to do with it it was a TR card.

Frampton / Quigg didn’t get made until Haymon got involved with Frampton until then it was Hearn posturing having Quigg bring a giant cheque to a press conference and making demands like Quigg was the A side boah blah blah which he wasn’t and that’s why he got 45% of the revenue

I’m a Bellew fan so it’s not a knock and the fight against Makabu was a great fight but it was for a vacant and Makabu was a unknown but up until Haye fight his big fights were domestic clash against Cleverly and being shipped off to get KO against Adonis. So yeah Bellew got paid off Hayes name

The whole Brook situation was a fiasco He fought Porter because he was a Mando that’s all. From then untill Gennady all he fought was C and D class scrubs. Hearn talked about having big $ fights with Vargas ( unification at the time ) or Rios fights he would have been probably favoured in and instead threw him with Gennady a fight he couldn’t win. Yeah it’s about risk / reward but Khan fought Canelo a less risky fight and got paid probably like 2-4x more. Seems to me Hearn sold Brook out just to get Gennady in the UK who he boasted was the #1 fighter at the time raising his company’s profile at his fighters expense

Hearns has Jacobs now for 2 fights and yeah he’s more active but against Arias and Sulecki like who gives a sh.it about those fights neither of those raise his profile. Seems like Hearn is just waiting around hoping after GGg/Canelo fight each other one of them pick ls Jacobs and he can be the b side to that

Jacobs might have been more inactive before but when he fought at least they mattered fighting Quillin at the time a top 5 MW and beating him down and getting a career high payday and anPPV against the #1 MW in Gennady have done more to raise Jacobs’s profile then fighting b level fighters on a regular basis

Eff pandas is entitled to his own opinion and while I think he’s one of the best posters on this site what he says isn’t gospel he was telling me in 2016 that HBo was still the number 1 platform for boxing and couldn’t see that the ship was sinking fast and didn’t think that PBC / Showtime had over taken it which it clearly had

I’m not saying Hearn is trash but he isn’t the best and he has a great market to work in where fans actually care about domestic fights that if those same events were held in the states they’d be held in high school arenas because they’re not really great fights

The UK has great fans but some of you guys ( not saying you) waive the Pom poms for anything British a little too hard and act like They want to actually suck Hearns d.ick everyday there’s a AJ is the best thread and every week there’s a Hearns the best thread. Pump the brakes

[Raggamuffin]

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The Superior Blackman has spoken!!!

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

No other promoter creates such hype around his fighters and he's been involved in massive events consistently over the years, throwing his fighters into dangerous fights. Like it or Not, if Spence and Thurman were UK fighters under Hearn they'd be commercial superstars. There's no doubt he's the top dog in promoting.

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Ok name me one fighter who’s career Hearn has successfully guided from the beginning besides AJ?????

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