Malignaggi on GGG saying Canelo was always dirty!

[Boksfan]

I think you are giving PEDs way to much credit for how much they can improve a boxer. I believe great fighters are naturally gifted fighters who worked hard to perfect their skills. I don't think modern PEDs can make a great fighter out of a better than average fighter. Ray Robinson is still considered by many to be the best fighter in history and there were no PEDs when he was fighting.All these supposed extremely effective modern PEDs have yet to produce a boxer than most experts rate better than SRR. You assume the two boxers who were not tired after a hard fight must have been on some PED but that is unfair and untrue. Some athletes just have better stamina than others. Some men can run a mile in less than 4 minutes. Most can't but a few can. I have never seen any tests that proves any PED improves a boxer's stamina, speed, punching power or ability to take hard punches. If we are going to say any boxer with extraordinary abilities must be a drug cheat then SRR must have been a drug cheat and of course that's not possible.

You can suck a dyck because PEDs were available back then, fool.

[Donnie Herrera]

So GGG fans have a real problem on their hands for this one. Most of the GGG fanboys are Pacquaio transplants who jumped ship to GGG after he lost to Mayweather. And Paulie has been the biggest trash talker and accusing Pacquaio of being on PEDs for his entire career despite not having a positive test and says he was dirty the entire time and why he ran from blood tests. Paulie is basically repeating what he's always said which is saying you don't need a failed test to be cheating. Sure that can help a GGG fan now by saying see GGG is right saying Canelo was cheating in past fights despite not failed test in past fight. But you then are acknowledging that so was Pacquaio. And you are quoting the man who has gone to hell and back to scream Pacquiao was a fraud his entire career for that same reason LMAO

Let's get the out and watch the same users who are on record for years trashed Paulie who defended Pacman against pictures and all kinds of hearsay so called proof and latched to the well he didn't fail a drug test defense now do a complete 180 agree with Pacquaios number 1 critic. This going to be good

Indeed...

[HarvardBlue]

I think you are giving PEDs way to much credit for how much they can improve a boxer. I believe great fighters are naturally gifted fighters who worked hard to perfect their skills. I don't think modern PEDs can make a great fighter out of a better than average fighter. Ray Robinson is still considered by many to be the best fighter in history and there were no PEDs when he was fighting.All these supposed extremely effective modern PEDs have yet to produce a boxer than most experts rate better than SRR. You assume the two boxers who were not tired after a hard fight must have been on some PED but that is unfair and untrue. Some athletes just have better stamina than others. Some men can run a mile in less than 4 minutes. Most can't but a few can. I have never seen any tests that proves any PED improves a boxer's stamina, speed, punching power or ability to take hard punches. If we are going to say any boxer with extraordinary abilities must be a drug cheat then SRR must have been a drug cheat and of course that's not possible.

I think you're giving PEDs too little credit. If you're able to train non stop with the ability to recover quickly all those attributes you mentioned will improve. You're right, PEDs won't turn an average boxer into a great boxer. But it can turn an average joe into a professional boxer. If you go to any gym right now you might find 4 to 5 really good athletes mixed in with a bunch of people that will never improve. Imagine going to a gym where the entire gym is made up of really good athletes. That's the world of PEDs.

I know the old boxers didn't have the modern PEDs thats available today. That was a different era. Those were the days where you had really good boxers mixed in with a bunch of average joes that boxed.

[Real King Kong]

So GGG fans have a real problem on their hands for this one. Most of the GGG fanboys are Pacquaio transplants who jumped ship to GGG after he lost to Mayweather. And Paulie has been the biggest trash talker and accusing Pacquaio of being on PEDs for his entire career despite not having a positive test and says he was dirty the entire time and why he ran from blood tests. Paulie is basically repeating what he's always said which is saying you don't need a failed test to be cheating. Sure that can help a GGG fan now by saying see GGG is right saying Canelo was cheating in past fights despite not failed test in past fight. But you then are acknowledging that so was Pacquaio. And you are quoting the man who has gone to hell and back to scream Pacquiao was a fraud his entire career for that same reason LMAO

Let's get the out and watch the same users who are on record for years trashed Paulie who defended Pacman against pictures and all kinds of hearsay so called proof and latched to the well he didn't fail a drug test defense now do a complete 180 agree with Pacquaios number 1 critic. This going to be good

bet you watch soap operas.

[Jsmooth9876]

So GGG fans have a real problem on their hands for this one. Most of the GGG fanboys are Pacquaio transplants who jumped ship to GGG after he lost to Mayweather. And Paulie has been the biggest trash talker and accusing Pacquaio of being on PEDs for his entire career despite not having a positive test and says he was dirty the entire time and why he ran from blood tests. Paulie is basically repeating what he's always said which is saying you don't need a failed test to be cheating. Sure that can help a GGG fan now by saying see GGG is right saying Canelo was cheating in past fights despite not failed test in past fight. But you then are acknowledging that so was Pacquaio. And you are quoting the man who has gone to hell and back to scream Pacquiao was a fraud his entire career for that same reason LMAO

Let's get the out and watch the same users who are on record for years trashed Paulie who defended Pacman against pictures and all kinds of hearsay so called proof and latched to the well he didn't fail a drug test defense now do a complete 180 agree with Pacquaios number 1 critic. This going to be good

Yeah except Canelo has failed one. Big difference there pal. Pacquiao being called a cheat is still his opinion. Canelo being a cheat is pure fact.
Get over it.

Sorry, Canelo failed 2 lol

[Hnnnggg]

I think you're giving PEDs too little credit. If you're able to train non stop with the ability to recover quickly all those attributes you mentioned will improve. You're right, PEDs won't turn an average boxer into a great boxer. But it can turn an average joe into a professional boxer. If you go to any gym right now you might find 4 to 5 really good athletes mixed in with a bunch of people that will never improve. Imagine going to a gym where the entire gym is made up of really good athletes. That's the world of PEDs.

I know the old boxers didn't have the modern PEDs thats available today. That was a different era. Those were the days where you had really good boxers mixed in with a bunch of average joes that boxed.

I agree, it should not be taken lightly. Taking PED’s like clen might not greatly improve baseline physiology, but instead it augments the speed at which you can build on that baseline. So my viewpoint is that PED’s don’t necessarily increase your inherent skills, but they change the trajectory of growth upon those skills.

[SkiPete]

In jail? No wait thats DMX.