GGG: "If nobody from the commission will cancel it, I will do my job."

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  • Biolink
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    #31
    Originally posted by j0zef
    His opponent pissed dirty and it's being brushed under the rug because he's the cash cow. He has the right to say anything he wants and be as angry as he wants to be.

    Remember when povetkin pissed dirty the first time? It took wilder a day to say nope not fighting him, didn't wait for any organization or commission to investigate.
    Here on the other hand you have a fighter who's opponent pissed hotter than Meldonium, but he still says he'll fight if the commission says its OK.

    It's amazing how some of you folks are trying to spin this **** so it comes back to Golovkin being the bad guy somehow.

    It's sad and pathetic.
    I'm far from the biggest GGG fan(Ill fight anyone from 154-168...), but I agree with this. Those guys are reaching hard. Canelo pissed dirty, period, end of discussion. I don't care how it got there, it was there.

    Golovkin would be remiss to not talk as much **** as possible about a goddamn cheater.

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    • Street15
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      #32
      Originally posted by Biolink
      I'm 99% sure there's a clause about canceling the fight if one of them tested positive. If not the lawyers on GGG's side need to be slapped.

      Its not like VADA is officially recognized by the Nevada State Athletic commission anyways because neither them or USADA have governing power, so in that case the lawyers would have to protect GGG by writing it up in the contract in the event that Canelo failed a test under VADA.
      Ideally. But in this particular case, since it's so extraordinary as it pertains to Mexican meat, they would have to PROVE intent.

      If NSAC does a thorough investigation and proves it was indeed just an isolated incident of food consumption, GGG is contractually obligated to fight and will face extremely harsh financial penalties for doing so.

      If NSAC proves Canelo is indeed guilty and was using Clen for a competitive advantage I'm sure it will be well within Gennady's right to cancel the fight and NSAC will punish Canelo and they too will have harsh financial penalties. BUT...I'm sure there will be lots of things being offered as a means to let the fight STILL continue to go on. (for example: renegotiated split, ppv shares, etc)

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      • Kuyukut
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        #33
        triple g will fight canelo even if he takes all the peds available to him.

        that's a true warrior right there...

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        • .!WAR MIKEY!.
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          #34
          Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
          Not true. Canelo is the one who tested positive for something. Leave Floyd and Ward out of your trolling, bro!
          facts are facts, everything I always speak is facts. Nothing more nothing less.

          facts are every expert involved has spoken on Canelo and say that the amount detected they can conclude that Canelo testing positive is nothing more than Meat Contamination.

          GGG and Abel knows this already however They CONTINUE to try and push for the fight to be cancelled.

          He wants to have his cake and eat it too, he wants to call for the fight to be cancelled and in teh same breath say he wants to say he wants the fight.

          This is like the time he cried about Canelo winning the title at a catchweight but he's the one who accepted step side money that allowed that fight to happen at a catchweight in the first place.


          1. Wada accredited doctor speaking on the rates that are deemed non positive for clenturbol.
          2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKXiWuF86BU
          3. WBC & WBA have also stated they believe its meat containmination
          4. https://www.boxingscene.com/wbc-wba-...oncent--125945
          Last edited by .!WAR MIKEY!.; 03-21-2018, 10:29 PM.

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          • Death_Adder
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            #35
            He's shook and wants out.

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            • Biolink
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              #36
              Originally posted by Street15
              Ideally. But in this particular case, since it's so extraordinary as it pertains to Mexican meat, they would have to PROVE intent.

              If NSAC does a thorough investigation and proves it was indeed just an isolated incident of food consumption, GGG is contractually obligated to fight and will face extremely harsh financial penalties for doing so.

              If NSAC proves Canelo is indeed guilty and was using Clen for a competitive advantage I'm sure it will be well within Gennady's right to cancel the fight and NSAC will punish Canelo and they too will have harsh financial penalties. BUT...I'm sure there will be lots of things being offered as a means to let the fight STILL continue to go on. (for example: renegotiated split, ppv shares, etc)
              Pretty sure its been stated that he would have had to eat a horse(Figuratively speaking) to get that much into his system. Further that horse would have had to have been injected and then pretty much IMMEDIATELY slaughtered and then cooked which is highly unlikely. Even furthermore you aren't generally giving animals human sized doses of it because it would make the livestock sick if not kill them.

              He had 600-800 picograms of it in his system. Alberto Contador a Tour de france winner had 50 picograms and used the same excuse, but still got banned. 2 other guys that I can't think of their names were suspended for it had 200 & 150 picograms in their system if I recall correctly.

              So you could potentially add all 3 of those guys TWICE, and it still might not equal what Canelo had in his system.

              As Occam's Razor suggests... if you have a difficult problem with multiple solutions the simplest answer is usually the right one.
              Last edited by Biolink; 03-21-2018, 10:44 PM.

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              • BoxingIsGreat
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                #37
                Originally posted by SceneBoxer
                If the commission doesn't suspend/ban Caneloterol, does GGG has the right to pull out from the fight? Being with an opponent with a positive tests.

                Tho GGG can manufacture any injury to pull out from the fight on the last minute...
                I'd say most definitely, in a court of law. His opponent tested dirty. (I didn't follow this story and I don't care about it.)

                I'm not interested in this fight. First one was boring and this one is tainted.

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                • SceneBoxer
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
                  I'd say most definitely, in a court of law. His opponent tested dirty. (I didn't follow this story and I don't care about it.)

                  I'm not interested in this fight. First one was boring and this one is tainted.
                  Yep this fight is tainted already ...

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                  • Street15
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Biolink
                    So you could potentially add all 3 of those guys TWICE, and it still might not equal what Canelo had in his system.

                    As Occam's Razor suggests... if you have a difficult problem with multiple solutions the simplest answer is usually the right one.
                    You're preaching to the choir my man. I'm of the belief that he was microdosing as well. He just miscalculated and got popped.

                    But the thing is, NSAC doesn't follow their own penalty protocols or even abide their own bylaws in general when it comes to certain people. And in this case, though it shouldn't be the case, they won't treat Clen like they would Nandrolone or Winstrol. I think all banned substances should be treated the exact same way, with the same urgency and severity and seriousness.

                    Instead we have people defending Canelo by trying say things like "well, Clen isn't the same as a steroid" or "Clen hasn't even been proven to do much for an athlete" or even "it was in his system before camp, so it can't benefit him much". I've seen it all. They'll literally try to change the chemical makeup of what Clen is and what it's primary functions are just to defend someone. It's sickening.

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                    • Elroy The Great
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by SugarAnt05
                      I assumed he meant his job is to fight so that’s what he’ll do
                      exactly

                      his job is to fight.

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