When Mayweather said Pac on roids did he want out?

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Most of you Floyd fans accepted whatever Floyd said such as in 2012. You thought that was good deal for Manny? Most Floyd fans said it was.


Manny didn't give up anything. It's what can happen as time goes by. Manny made more than the 2012 offer and more than likely more than he would have made if the fight happened in 2009/2010 as well.

More than likely means you aren't sure. But good job cherrypicking 2012 when you know I'm referring to 2009/10. He accepted a worse deal.

50/50 and 14 days
or
40/60 and 0 days.

Clearly a worse deal. Not sure what that meant for his money, and at least you admit that much as well.

Floyd didn't fight Manny until he felt 100% that the 2009 version of Manny wasn't going to show up in that fight.

That's asinine when even Spoon, Pac's friend and PacRoach extroadinaire, admit that 14 days was a fair offer. 50/50 was fair, don't you think? So you're just pulling this out of your ass.

After JMM and 2nd Bradley fight, then Floyd said he saw a different Manny.

Months after Bradley fight, Floyd vs Manny fight was being negotiated.

Floyd comparing risky Manny vs Cotto and the Bradley vs Manny:
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Let me ask you....was 50/50 and 14 days a fair deal? Spoon seems to think so

[ADP02]

You forgot the judges. PacRoaches usually add in that he bought the judges, too. NSAC as well. The Mayor of Las Vegas...The Governor of Nevada.....

What are you talking about.
Floyd actually used BANNED IVs!!!!


Of course he needed help from his home town NSAC, home town ref, home town judges and the people he paid off that goes by the name USADA!!!

[travestyny]

What are you talking about.
Floyd actually used BANNED IVs!!!!


Of course he needed help from his home town NSAC, home town ref, home town judges and the people he paid off that goes by the name USADA!!!

Dude, we've gone over this a billion times. The IV was not banned because a TUE was granted.

The TUE was approved of by 3 members of an INDEPENDENT TUE Committee that did not have the athlete's name on the application.

An IV masks by DILUTION. Dilution is checked for by two en******.: The DCO and the Independent WADA Lab. If a diluted sample is processed, a flag is sent via the ADAMS system straight to WADA.

There is no way that WADA gets info about a TUE and also info that Floyd Mayweather purposely contaminated every collection vessel available so that there was no collection vessel left to get an undiluted sample, as you once tried to argue, and made no qualms about it.

Give up.

[ADP02]

More than likely means you aren't sure. But good job cherrypicking 2012 when you know I'm referring to 2009/10. He accepted a worse deal.

50/50 and 14 days
or
40/60 and 0 days.

Clearly a worse deal. Not sure what that meant for his money, and at least you admit that much as well.




That's asinine when even Spoon, Pac's friend and PacRoach extroadinaire, admit that 14 days was a fair offer. 50/50 was fair, don't you think? So you're just pulling this out of your ass.




Let me ask you....was 50/50 and 14 days a fair deal? Spoon seems to think so

More than likely .... because I'm sure that Manny got more in 2015 than he would in 2010 but of course, I cannot be 100% on that.

Even the 0 days cut off was OK in 2015 because he tried it himself (testing) in a few fights and felt OK about it. In 2009, Manny was concerned due to his previous experience.

0 days: Well, USADA didn't do no blood testing for over 10 days prior to the fight so that too, was close to 2009.


The only thing that hurt Manny was that in 2009, Manny would have come at Floyd hard while in 2015, Manny's game plan was to box Floyd. Plus of course, Manny was injured so that didn't help.

No way 2009 Manny would have tried to outbox Floyd.




and I have commented many times that most Manny fans wanted a fight and was OK with Manny giving in to the 14 days and wished he would have accepted. There was a poll out and most Manny fans voted that way ..... but when the tables were turned, Floyd fans were not so eager to turn against their hero. Well, actually some did sh$t on Floyd (briefly) for placing more roadblocks once Manny accepted 14 days, 7 days and even 0 days cut off. But some went back on the defense 1 week later! Ooops!




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[travestyny]

More than likely .... because I'm sure that Manny got more in 2015 than he would in 2010 but of course, I cannot be 100% on that.

How the fvvck can you say you are sure, and then say you aren't sure.

and I have commented many times that most Manny fans wanted a fight and was OK with Manny giving in to the 14 days and wished he would have accepted.
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Great. Then you also admit that he ducked the fight. Because 50/50 and 14 days was fine, right?

Thanks. You PacRoaches aren't as dumb as I thought

[ADP02]

Dude, we've gone over this a billion times. The IV was not banned because a TUE was granted.

The TUE was approved of by 3 members of an INDEPENDENT TUE Committee that did not have the athlete's name on the application.

An IV masks by DILUTION. Dilution is checked for by two en******.: The DCO and the Independent WADA Lab. If a diluted sample is processed, a flag is sent via the ADAMS system straight to WADA.

There is no way that WADA gets info about a TUE and also info that Floyd Mayweather purposely contaminated every collection vessel available so that there was no collection vessel left to get an undiluted sample, as you once tried to argue, and made no qualms about it.

Give up.

Yup, we went over it but:

When Floyd got the BANNED IVs, he had NO TUE!!!! So he needed USADA's help!

Just go back and you will find lots of cases where USADA says they do a thorough investigation especially when there is a RETRO TUE and it can take months. About 24 hours after the request by Floyd, USADA rubber stamped the RETRO TUE and Floyd got hit hot off the presses!


Floyd admits that he has no issues with weight including that day. How can one accept getting BANNED IVs when the rules state to use and alternative and we have pictures and video clips of Floyd drinking fluids multiple times!!!!

Floyd weighed relatively the same for 30 days and admits to being around that weight for a decade. He even had a video done after getting the IV saying so!!!

An expert and head of TUE committee said what happened with Floyd stinks and he should have just been given fluids .... and Floyd was given. You do not give RETRO TUEs so easily and gave examples. Was Floyd rushed to a hosptial? Nope. Floyd was giving an interview soon after and said all is good, Floyd was happy and not like those other guys who drain themselves.


It's math. According to me? No science, NSAC, USADA and WADA documentation. Floyd's weight was where it should be but if he needed a boast, he just had to drink a few cups of fluid per pound lost. Again, we witnessed Floyd drinking fluids!!!!


WHo is USADA? The guys who could have done an investigation but did NOT. They were paid big money since 2010 from Floyd and company for many fights. Floyd got USADA into boxing. USADA returned the favor. Other athletes who were clearly out of it (needed an IV) were investigated.
Floyd? NO WAY!!!! USADA didn't even pretend that they investigated (rubber stamped TUE) .... Lance Armstrong wished he had it this good!



and the evidence from the pre-fight physical and pre-fight form didn't suggest that Floyd was in such a serious situation. How could he have been when he said in multiple interviews that he was just relaxing in the final days before the fight. Floyd was ready not draining himself 15-20lbs!

So how can anyone believe urinating contributed to Floyd's extreme dehydration when they didn't believe Manny in 2009 was concerned about giving blood? Floyd BS that you cannot accept!!!


So how can anyone believe giving blood about 10 days before contributed to Floyd's extreme dehydration when they didn't believe Manny in 2009 was concerned about giving blood? Floyd BS that you cannot accept!!!

So how can anyone believe that it was due to hard training when this "condition" occurred not when Floyd was heavily training but instead occurred after Floyd himself admitted in multiple interviews that heavy training is over and he was taking it easy relaxing on the final days before the fight!!! Floyd BS that you cannot accept!!!



Dr Alex Ariza was all over this. He had Floyd drinking fluids and said in interviews the plan is set out months before. Floyd was being monitored by Ariza.

Here he is drinking and laughing. Use science and math. Floyd is guilty! USADA helped out BIG TIME!!!









Here is Dr Alex Ariza making sure that Floyd is nice and hydrated.




Look at the smile on Floyd's face! LOL

[travestyny]

Yup, we went over it but:

When Floyd got the BANNED IVs, he had NO TUE!!!! So he needed USADA's help!

Just go back and you will find lots of cases where USADA says they do a thorough investigation especially when there is a RETRO TUE and it can take months. About 24 hours after the request by Floyd, USADA rubber stamped the RETRO TUE and Floyd got hit hot off the presses!


Floyd admits that he has no issues with weight including that day. How can one accept getting BANNED IVs when the rules state to use and alternative and we have pictures and video clips of Floyd drinking fluids multiple times!!!!

Floyd weighed relatively the same for 30 days and admits to being around that weight for a decade. He even had a video done after getting the IV saying so!!!

An expert and head of TUE committee said what happened with Floyd stinks and he should have just been given fluids .... and Floyd was given. You do not give RETRO TUEs so easily and gave examples. Was Floyd rushed to a hosptial? Nope. Floyd was giving an interview soon after and said all is good, Floyd was happy and not like those other guys who drain themselves.


It's math. According to me? No science, NSAC, USADA and WADA documentation. Floyd's weight was where it should be but if he needed a boast, he just had to drink a few cups of fluid per pound lost. Again, we witnessed Floyd drinking fluids!!!!


WHo is USADA? The guys who could have done an investigation but did NOT. They were paid big money since 2010 from Floyd and company for many fights. Floyd got USADA into boxing. USADA returned the favor. Other athletes who were clearly out of it (needed an IV) were investigated.
Floyd? NO WAY!!!! USADA didn't even pretend that they investigated (rubber stamped TUE) .... Lance Armstrong wished he had it this good!



and the evidence from the pre-fight physical and pre-fight form didn't suggest that Floyd was in such a serious situation. How could he have been when he said in multiple interviews that he was just relaxing in the final days before the fight. Floyd was ready not draining himself 15-20lbs!

So how can anyone believe urinating contributed to Floyd's extreme dehydration when they didn't believe Manny in 2009 was concerned about giving blood? Floyd BS that you cannot accept!!!


So how can anyone believe giving blood about 10 days before contributed to Floyd's extreme dehydration when they didn't believe Manny in 2009 was concerned about giving blood? Floyd BS that you cannot accept!!!

So how can anyone believe that it was due to hard training when this "condition" occurred not when Floyd was heavily training but instead occurred after Floyd himself admitted in multiple interviews that heavy training is over and he was taking it easy relaxing on the final days before the fight!!! Floyd BS that you cannot accept!!!



Dr Alex Ariza was all over this. He had Floyd drinking fluids and said in interviews the plan is set out months before. Floyd was being monitored by Ariza.

Here he is drinking and laughing. Use science and math. Floyd is guilty! USADA helped out BIG TIME!!!









Here is Dr Alex Ariza making sure that Floyd is nice and hydrated.




Look at the smile on Floyd's face! LOL

It's very simple.

An IV masks by dilution.


Tell me....how did a diluted sample get past the DCO AND the independent WADA lab?

How did WADA get information about a TUE AND information that the sample was diluted, and just say, "Ok!" Or was WADA also a part of this?


I'll await your answer.

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How the fvvck can you say you are sure, and then say you aren't sure.



Great. Then you also admit that he ducked the fight. Because 50/50 and 14 days was fine, right?

Thanks. You PacRoaches aren't as dumb as I thought

We wanted to see a fight
but
They were negotiating and it was still a concern for Manny at the time.


Floyd was super concerned on how that version of Manny destroyed Cotto, Hatton, Oscar .....

so,
- Floyd waited 5 more years.
- Manny 2015 was not the same as 2009/2010
- Floyd got the ref he wanted
- Floyd had NSAC on his side (Investigate Manny but not Floyd? Ooops)
- Floyd had paid USADA enough so for sure USADA was on his side (USADA-Manny should have told NSAC about his condition. Floyd? Ooops)
- Floyd saw Marquez vs Manny and thought he had the blue print then "tried" all night to throw that right but with 0 authority and missed plenty.
- Judges? Dave Moretti has judged Floyd so many times that he can tell you how many moles that Floyd has! Ooops!


Why didn't Floyd say yes in 2012? Why did he put more roadblocks?

2015 Floyd accepted less .... Ooops?

[travestyny]

We wanted to see a fight
but
They were negotiating and it was still a concern for Manny at the time.


Floyd was super concerned on how that version of Manny destroyed Cotto, Hatton, Oscar .....

so,
- Floyd waited 5 more years.
- Manny 2015 was not the same as 2009/2010
- Floyd got the ref he wanted
- Floyd had NSAC on his side (Investigate Manny but not Floyd? Ooops)
- Floyd had paid USADA enough so for sure USADA was on his side (USADA-Manny should have told NSAC about his condition. Floyd? Ooops)
- Floyd saw Marquez vs Manny and thought he had the blue print then "tried" all night to throw that right but with 0 authority and missed plenty.
- Judges? Dave Moretti has judged Floyd so many times that he can tell you how many moles that Floyd has! Ooops!


Why didn't Floyd say yes in 2012? Why did he put more roadblocks?

2015 Floyd accepted less .... Ooops?

You are the projector deflector.


They were in their primes in 2009/2010, right?

Mayweather's proposed a fair offer in 2009/2010, according to even you, right?


Who was responsible for the fight not happening in their primes then?


For comparison, let's say Anthony Joshua offers Wilder a fair offer for a fight after his fight with Parker. If Wilder declines, what's your opinion?

I think this issue is settled. You have no way out now.


By the way, you do realize that Pac's fights against Cotto, Hatton, and Oscar were all before the first negotiation, right?

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Spoon23 = DJMTAL = ADP02

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Yeah. Its definitely the same person.

**** these weirdos.