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  • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
    It's very simple.

    An IV masks by dilution.


    Tell me....how did a diluted sample get past the DCO AND the independent WADA lab?

    How did WADA get information about a TUE AND information that the sample was diluted, and just say, "Ok!" Or was WADA also a part of this?


    I'll await your answer.

    Are you serious?

    WADA/USADA does NOT have to prove anything other than the rules and IVs are BANNED!!!!

    Ahtletes are suspended and sometimes given lifetime suspension just because the athlete had BANNED (in possession of) items. Floyd administered with a BANNED IV!


    Furthermore
    "USADA admitted as much in the report outlining its evidence, saying that “the contention that an absence of positive drug tests is proof that a cyclist is clean does not bear serious scrutiny. ”"

    So not even USADA believes your BS, except when it comes to their biggest paying customer, Floyd!!!


    Remember McCall? UFC? The guy was vomiting, transported to the hospital and had a severe case of dehydration due to his initial dehydration to make weight. ..... Doctor told him he could have died or lost a vital organ.


    USADA still had done a "thorough investigation"


    Floyd? Hello!



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    • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
      Yup, we went over it but:

      When Floyd got the BANNED IVs, he had NO TUE!!!! So he needed USADA's help!

      Just go back and you will find lots of cases where USADA says they do a thorough investigation especially when there is a RETRO TUE and it can take months. About 24 hours after the request by Floyd, USADA rubber stamped the RETRO TUE and Floyd got hit hot off the presses!


      Floyd admits that he has no issues with weight including that day. How can one accept getting BANNED IVs when the rules state to use and alternative and we have pictures and video clips of Floyd drinking fluids multiple times!!!!

      Floyd weighed relatively the same for 30 days and admits to being around that weight for a decade. He even had a video done after getting the IV saying so!!!

      An expert and head of TUE committee said what happened with Floyd stinks and he should have just been given fluids .... and Floyd was given. You do not give RETRO TUEs so easily and gave examples. Was Floyd rushed to a hosptial? Nope. Floyd was giving an interview soon after and said all is good, Floyd was happy and not like those other guys who drain themselves.


      It's math. According to me? No science, NSAC, USADA and WADA documentation. Floyd's weight was where it should be but if he needed a boast, he just had to drink a few cups of fluid per pound lost. Again, we witnessed Floyd drinking fluids!!!!


      WHo is USADA? The guys who could have done an investigation but did NOT. They were paid big money since 2010 from Floyd and company for many fights. Floyd got USADA into boxing. USADA returned the favor. Other athletes who were clearly out of it (needed an IV) were investigated.
      Floyd? NO WAY!!!! USADA didn't even pretend that they investigated (rubber stamped TUE) .... Lance Armstrong wished he had it this good!



      and the evidence from the pre-fight physical and pre-fight form didn't suggest that Floyd was in such a serious situation. How could he have been when he said in multiple interviews that he was just relaxing in the final days before the fight. Floyd was ready not draining himself 15-20lbs!

      So how can anyone believe urinating contributed to Floyd's extreme dehydration when they didn't believe Manny in 2009 was concerned about giving blood? Floyd BS that you cannot accept!!!


      So how can anyone believe giving blood about 10 days before contributed to Floyd's extreme dehydration when they didn't believe Manny in 2009 was concerned about giving blood? Floyd BS that you cannot accept!!!

      So how can anyone believe that it was due to hard training when this "condition" occurred not when Floyd was heavily training but instead occurred after Floyd himself admitted in multiple interviews that heavy training is over and he was taking it easy relaxing on the final days before the fight!!! Floyd BS that you cannot accept!!!



      Dr Alex Ariza was all over this. He had Floyd drinking fluids and said in interviews the plan is set out months before. Floyd was being monitored by Ariza.

      Here he is drinking and laughing. Use science and math. Floyd is guilty! USADA helped out BIG TIME!!!









      Here is Dr Alex Ariza making sure that Floyd is nice and hydrated.




      Look at the smile on Floyd's face! LOL
      Still spamming nonsense huh?

      Did you forget the DCO collected a partial urine sample before Floyd used the IV? The sample came back clean.


      Try not to spam your reply.

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      • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
        Are you serious?

        WADA/USADA does NOT have to prove anything other than the rules and IVs are BANNED!!!!

        Ahtletes are suspended and sometimes given lifetime suspension just because the athlete had BANNED (in possession of) items. Floyd administered with a BANNED IV!


        Furthermore



        So not even USADA believes your BS, except when it comes to their biggest paying customer, Floyd!!!


        Remember McCall? UFC? The guy was vomiting, transported to the hospital and had a severe case of dehydration due to his initial dehydration to make weight. ..... Doctor told him he could have died or lost a vital organ.


        USADA still had done a "thorough investigation"


        Floyd? Hello!



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        You just ducked.


        For your conspiracy theory to make sense, that means that the sample was diluted.

        How did a diluted sample get past the DCO and the independent lab?


        Why would WADA not sanction USADA for accepting a TUE and a diluted sample?

        Waiting......

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        • Originally posted by Dosumpthin View Post
          Spoon23 = DJMTAL = ADP02

          Rapid-fire-instant-copy-paste-spam

          Yeah. Its definitely the same person.

          **** these weirdos.

          Quick DoNothing!


          Did I hit a nerve or you just woke up in a bad mood?

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          • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
            Quick DoNothing!


            Did I hit a nerve or you just woke up in a bad mood?
            Lol.

            More logical well thought out responses - and less repetitive copy and paste spam. Thanks.

            Oh yeah stick to the topic and stop deflecting.









            You never did answer my question.....

            Why do you think Bob Arum lied about obtaining a TUE from USADA?


            ...try to be clear and concise.

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            • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
              You just ducked.


              For your conspiracy theory to make sense, that means that the sample was diluted.

              How did a diluted sample get past the DCO and the independent lab?


              Why would WADA not sanction USADA for accepting a TUE and a diluted sample?

              Waiting......

              Nope that is you! Floyd needed an IV? Start with that and you got your answer!!!!
              That is a head scratcher for sure that you have never been able to explain properly. No Floyd fan has ever touched that! How come???


              The DCO got what he came for 6+ hours later delay. Do the math! Ooops!


              After so much time plus the initial elapsed time, it could have been enough time so that whatever Floyd did was no longer detectable ..... and his urine was allowed to get much more diluted so even less chance at being detected. Go read up, very possible.

              Floyd had time to do just about anything! Wake up!!!



              Who said that what you said happened? WADA had a look at Floyd's scandal (documentation)? Why are you not accepting what the TUE expert said? NO RETRO TUE should have been given to Floyd!!!




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              • Originally posted by Dosumpthin View Post
                Still spamming nonsense huh?

                Did you forget the DCO collected a partial urine sample before Floyd used the IV? The sample came back clean.


                Try not to spam your reply.
                the key word is "partial" and that "partial was done when? After Floyd jugged all those fluids and had time to delay and do whatever then other "partial" was after using BANNED IV?

                You dilute the urine the detection is minimized. After a delay, it's more so and can become undetectable.

                "partial" is NOT sufficient to be tested alone. Remember that there are previous cases .....



                but you guys deflect.


                Why did Floyd need an BANNED IV when I presented to you enough clips of Floyd drinking fluids and laughing (and giving interviews that he doesn't drain himself like other guys - said it right after getting a freaking BANNED IV) to make you scratch your head and say "Floyd is guilty!!!!!"
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                You cannot answer that so you do like Lance Armstrong supporters would do.

                Yes, Lance could have sneaked a bag of IV underneat the DCO's nose but if I would have said that his supporters would be acting like you guys.

                Instead, lets face it. Floyd DID NOT NEED A BANNED IV so you guys need to deflect!!!



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                Last edited by ADP02; 03-28-2018, 11:22 PM.

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                • Originally posted by Dosumpthin View Post
                  Lol.

                  More logical well thought out responses - and less repetitive copy and paste spam. Thanks.

                  Oh yeah stick to the topic and stop deflecting.









                  You never did answer my question.....

                  Why do you think Bob Arum lied about obtaining a TUE from USADA?


                  ...try to be clear and concise.
                  Deflect? We were talking about Bob Arum?

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                  • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                    Nope that is you! Floyd needed an IV? Start with that and you got your answer!!!!
                    That is a head scratcher for sure that you have never been able to explain properly. No Floyd fan has ever touched that! How come???


                    The DCO got what he came for 6+ hours later delay. Do the math! Ooops!


                    After so much time plus the initial elapsed time, it could have been enough time so that whatever Floyd did was no longer detectable ..... and his urine was allowed to get much more diluted so even less chance at being detected. Go read up, very possible.

                    Floyd had time to do just about anything! Wake up!!!



                    Who said that what you said happened? WADA had a look at Floyd's scandal (documentation)? Why are you not accepting what the TUE expert said? NO RETRO TUE should have been given to Floyd!!!




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                    1. The expert didn’t say that liar. He said he wasn’t familiar with the details of the case. Also, a WADA spokesperson said a retro TUE for an IV can be granted for dehydration.

                    2. A sample was taken before the IV. Your delay theory just went down the drain.

                    Now stop deflecting. How did they get the diluted sample past the DCO and the lab? Why didn’t WADA go after USADA. Still waiting.
                    Last edited by travestyny; 03-29-2018, 12:20 AM.

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                    • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                      Deflect? We were talking about Bob Arum?
                      No. But we are now.....might as well answer since the topic is about Bob Arum and TUEs

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