Does any fighter post 1980 beat a 147-154lb prime SRL/Hearns????

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  • Joe Beamish
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    #61
    Originally posted by lolpz
    Mayweather outboxes both of them at 147.
    Quite a stretch, since Floyd never faced anyone remotely similar to Hearns or Leonard. Not by a long, long ways.

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    • djtmal
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      #62
      Originally posted by robertzimmerman
      Good points.

      It's a shame we never saw the fights.
      yeah i think he fell into that high risk, low reward category

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        #63
        Originally posted by lolpz
        Mayweather outboxes both of them at 147.
        by doing what pray tell...

        floyd probably doesn't set foot in the ww division while srl and hearns are prime...

        only way he would even entertain it is if both were over the hill...

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        • Ray Corso
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          #64
          Mayweather has 11 fights at welter! He is NOT a top ten welter and Leonard and Hearns beat the hell out of him. He has NO power at 147!
          Comparing Pacman's piss poor effort against Mayweather is ridiculous, Pac would be brutally KO'd by either Leonard or Hearns.

          When you go up against the welter greats like Robinson, Gavalin, Basilio, Griffith, Leonard, Hearns, Armstrong, Trinidad, Napoles, Walker, Ross, Burley, Lewis, Zivic, DeMarco..............etc....

          You see fellows theres a lot of outstanding fighters that could come in at 147 through the history of boxing!

          Floyd Mayweather has "11 Bouts" at welter. Against far past prime names, former lightweight contenders and alphabet champs.
          He was the promoter and matchmaker on all his fights at welter!
          He can't break an EGG! Floyud hasn't stopped any of his "cherrypicked" opponents in his last 10 years.


          Good boxer at 130 and probably a top fifteen competitor at that weight.

          At welter he gets blasted by the big boys! As I've said for years on this forum he has "No Power" at 147!

          Ray

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            #65
            Hearns has a glass jaw. Charlos knocking him stiff.

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              #66
              Idk but a round robin at 147/154 between SRL, Hearns and Trinidad, DLH, Mayweather and Whitaker would be interesting.

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                #67
                Originally posted by Thraxox
                Easier said than donem
                I broke down Mayweather's style to you...I am telling you what he DOES.

                Yes, it is easier said than done, but he did it time and time again.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Joe Beamish
                  Quite a stretch, since Floyd never faced anyone remotely similar to Hearns or Leonard. Not by a long, long ways.
                  You've never faced anybody until you actually face them.

                  He hadn't faced any of the styles he came across in his professional career, until he faced them and came out on top every single time.

                  High IQ, taking the opponent's weapon away from them with his ATG #1 p4p defense, and finding openings with his blazing handspeed and accuracy. He did this over and over again.

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                  • Hnnnggg
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                    #69
                    Maybe sweet pea at 147 could fair ok against hearns... but then I think about what he did to Benitez and duran, albeit an older, lesser version of Duran

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by robertzimmerman
                      Most people consider JMW to be Tommy's peak weight. And on a H2H basis, I agree. JMW wasn't too big for him. Barkley beat him at MW and LHW.
                      Hearns was in his prime at that weight, but the weight was too big for him.

                      Originally posted by Ray Corso
                      Mayweather has 11 fights at welter! He is NOT a top ten welter and Leonard and Hearns beat the hell out of him. He has NO power at 147!

                      When you go up against the welter greats like Robinson, Gavalin, Basilio, Griffith, Leonard, Hearns, Armstrong, Trinidad, Napoles, Walker, Ross, Burley, Lewis, Zivic, DeMarco..............etc....

                      You see fellows theres a lot of outstanding fighters that could come in at 147 through the history of boxing!

                      Floyd Mayweather has "11 Bouts" at welter. Against far past prime names, former lightweight contenders and alphabet champs.
                      He was the promoter and matchmaker on all his fights at welter!
                      He can't break an EGG! Floyud hasn't stopped any of his "cherrypicked" opponents in his last 10 years.

                      Good boxer at 130 and probably a top fifteen competitor at that weight.

                      At welter he gets blasted by the big boys! As I've said for years on this forum he has "No Power" at 147!

                      Ray
                      Hey Ray, why do you old timers hate Floyd so much?

                      And it's 12, not 11 and I didn't even count McGregor.

                      Cherry picking? COme on man. You're starting to sound like some of these casuals. Also he had a few knockouts in the last 10 years, what are you talking about? Hatton and Ortiz for starters.

                      Who was cherry picked? Floyd was calling Mosely out in 2005. Called out Hoya too and Tszyu. Everybody knows Arum blocked the Hoya fight.



                      Nobody was saying Mosely was shot when he stopped Margarito in brutal fashion which was his fight right before Floyd. Shane's bullshít loose toof story in 2006 after knocking out Vargas for the second time was backpedaling from Mayweather. See the video ^, that's from 2005 (Floyd) and 2006 (Mosely). That was 4-5 years before they fought.

                      I think he was calling Shane out as early as 1999. How the fůck did he cherrypick Mosely then?

                      Everybody said Floyd was scared of Margarito, so logically I ask --- why would he fight the guy that knocked this cat out stone cold if he was such a cherrypicker?

                      The only cherry picks were Berto and McGregor imo. Berto was his last fight and Mc****** was years later. The rest were legitimate.

                      Floyd used Golden Boy for promotion and what's this about former lightweight contenders? You're pretty off base for a lot of your post content.

                      Floyd wasn't in control of his career until 2007 and here is a list of fighters he fought on his own. Everything before 2007, blame Arum and Bruce Trampler.
                      • Conor McGregor
                      • Andre Berto
                      • Manny Pacquiao
                      • Marcos Maidana
                      • Saul Alvarez
                      • Robert Guerrero
                      • Miguel Cotto
                      • Victor Ortiz
                      • Shane Mosely
                      • Juan Manuel Marquez
                      • Ricky Hatton
                      • Oscar De La Hoya


                      I think that's a pretty solid list. Cherry picking undefeated fighters in their prime (Hatton, Alvarez), come on man.
                      Last edited by McNulty; 03-27-2018, 07:51 PM.

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