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  • BEEHOP
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    Wilder, Pov, AJ destroy All cws

    People seem to think these cws are going to become the real boogeymen at hw and I just do not see it.
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    Povetkin hardly made it by marco huck!

    he was a 200 lb amateur in his mid 20's in the olympics! the problem with the current CW is not size! joe louis was about 200-205 lbs. almost identical in reach and height to a guy who knocked wladimir klitschko into next week named lamon brewster. if brewster was in louis' level of 15 round shape he'd be about 215 lbs in his prime. maybe less. they're basically the same size.

    you trying to tell me lamon brewster is bigger than louis, who is of nearly idential height, reach, and weight? or just that lamon brewster is much better ?
    Last edited by New England; 03-19-2018, 01:02 PM.

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    • BEEHOP
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      Originally posted by New England
      Povetkin hardly made it by marco huck!
      I should replace Pov with Fury, but Fury may not fight again. Huck used to be one of the best 5-6 years ago at cw. Good point I do see Usyk putting up a good close fight with Povetkin and probably winning. Povetkin os not as bad as people say, he has legit wins peds aside

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        Originally posted by BEEHOP
        I should replace Pov with Fury, but Fury may not fight again. Huck used to be one of the best 5-6 years ago at cw. Good point I do see Usyk putting up a good close fight with Povetkin and probably winning. Povetkin os not as bad as people say, he has legit wins peds aside


        fury is going to have a hard time getting through a training camp, drug test, etc.


        also, how about his fight with steve cunningham? ended on what a lot of people would consider an illegal punch, and steve, a modest puncher even at CW put him down hard on his back!

        i like steve cunningham, but the guy was dead average. not a special CW by any stretch, not a puncher, just another 200 lb dude who boxed.

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          I know Gassiev beat Dorticos BUT given Dorticos' power and Wilder's defense, I'd give Dorticos a shot at defeating Wilder with one punch. Truly a fight of who lands first.
          If Usyk had a little more pop, I'd give him an outside chance at wearing Joshua down and finishing him late. Since he doesn't I think Joshua (with no real fear of return fire) would just walk him down and finish him early.

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            Originally posted by New England
            fury is going to have a hard time getting through a training camp, drug test, etc.


            also, how about his fight with steve cunningham? ended on what a lot of people would consider an illegal punch, and steve, a modest puncher even at CW put him down hard on his back!

            i like steve cunningham, but the guy was dead average. not a special CW by any stretch, not a puncher, just another 200 lb dude who boxed.
            I always tgought Steve was considered top 5 around 10 years ago.

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              Originally posted by BEEHOP
              I always tgought Steve was considered top 5 around 10 years ago.


              i think he was probably the best or top 1-2 cruiserweights in eh world, but again, the division is garbage and the guy was a dead average fighter. did nothing well, he was just average. average boxing skills. average or less power. and yeah, wiht those skills he was one of the best CW on the planet for a numebr of years. even beat marco huck, who we talked about earlier as having done quite well against povetkin.

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                I think usyk is talented enough to compete with the hws, I think breidis is smarter and uses more craft then most heavyweights, think gassiev has the power and ability to keep up a pace most guys at heavyweight wouldn't be able to maintain. These guys have different things they rely on and if fight smart and to their strengths i can see a lot of the top cruiserweights give heavyweights problems.

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                  Not sure about Povetkin... Usyk can easily outbox him cause he is not that big.

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                    With the cruiserweight limit now at 200 pounds some cruiserweights probably weigh 220 on fight night. A lean 220 pound boxer is plenty big enough to rule the heavyweights if they have the skills. World heavyweight champions who weighed 220 or less in their prime include Foreman, Tyson, Louis, Lewis, Liston, Ali, Holmes and probably some other good ones.

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