Originally posted by chrisJS
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Who has the greater legacy? Marco Antonio Barrera or Juan Manuel Marquez
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Beyond beating Pac, under su****ious circumstances, he never reached the heights Barrera or Morales did. JMM is 2-1-1 against Pac, has a win over a badly faded MAB, never faced Morales, never faced Naz, lost to John and Mayweather. he was also thoroughly beaten by Bradley.
Barrera holds several iconic victories, chiefly Morales 2x and Naz.
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Barrera because he beat Hamed and was more fierce. Trust me, Hamed would have beaten JMM to a snot if he'd fought him in 1999 as planned, but JMM didn't wanna know...not the other way as Lampley later claimed, the Arab hating liar.
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MAB.
3 reasons:
1. he doesnt drink urine.
2. he doesnt have suspect relationships with starcraft 2 playing korean males.
3. he fought without ped use.
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Originally posted by 2fast2strong View PostMarquez and to me it’s not even close, even without pac Juan’s resume is much better than Barreras
MAB- W - Kennedy McKinney (28-1)
- W - Erik Morles (undefeated)
- W - Hamed (undefeated)
- W - Tapia (52-2)
- W - Kelley (54-5)
- W - Ayala (35-2)
- W - Rocky Juarez (25-2)
JMM- W - Gainer (39-5)
- W - Salido (28-8)
- W - MAB* (63-4)
- W - Casamayor (36-3)
- W - Juan Diaz* (34-1)
- W - Katsidis (27-2)
- W - Pacquiao (54-4)
* = MAB was shot to ribbons and JMM went life and death with Juan Diaz who was beaten by Malignaggi the same year. Scorecards were even* (*Levi Martinez 76-76 | Duane Ford 75-77 | Max DeLuca 77-75 ) until Diaz got caught. JMM was losing actually on Fords card.
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Originally posted by McNulty View PostJMM never beat anybody better than a prime Morales and I think the comparison below speaks for itself. Mind you that MAB wasn't the same fighter after the second Morales fight in 2002 (right before Tapia in my chronological list).
MAB- W - Kennedy McKinney (28-1)
- W - Erik Morles (undefeated)
- W - Hamed (undefeated)
- W - Tapia (52-2)
- W - Kelley (54-5)
- W - Ayala (35-2)
- W - Rocky Juarez (25-2)
JMM- W - Gainer (39-5)
- W - Salido (28-8)
- W - MAB* (63-4)
- W - Casamayor (36-3)
- W - Juan Diaz* (34-1)
- W - Katsidis (27-2)
- W - Pacquiao (54-4)
* = MAB was shot to ribbons and JMM went life and death with Juan Diaz who was beaten by Malignaggi the same year. Scorecards were even* (*Levi Martinez 76-76 | Duane Ford 75-77 | Max DeLuca 77-75 ) until Diaz got caught. JMM was losing actually on Fords card.
Marquez destroyed Diaz at Lightweight. He was never the same fighter again. That's like how Vargas was never the same after Trinidad, Moore after Duran etc; That's very common in Boxing.
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Originally posted by considerthis View Postround by round?
I'm just glad that even with the ****** commentary of them going nuts whenever John threw most the people who actually watched and scored the fight had Marquez handily.
The Norwood fight was a poor decision too. I think Norwood landed about 52 punches and ran most the night even got knocked down in a round he may have edged 10-9. That was 8-4 Marquez at a stretch 7-5 but anything closer is poor judging though I'll admit Marquez was too passive in that fight and froze.
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Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View PostBarrera, at least he fought clean. His trilogy with Morales was one of the best. Dominated Hamed.
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