If the half-life for Clenbuterol is 28 to 36 hours....

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  • Biolink
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    #21
    Its more than that.

    He'd have to eat the fuaking cow after they JUST injected it with clenbuterol, which would make no sense in the ways someone raising cattle would use it.

    Also you aren't giving cattle human doses of it, because it would make them sick if not kill them.

    The man was cheating period.

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      #22
      Originally posted by bigdunny1
      That's not how it works. The NFL player who also tested positive did not eat meat the day of his test. He went on vacation to Mexico for 1 week came back to the US and days after he was in the US was randomly tested and still had small traces in his system just like canelo.

      Look what drug expert Memo had to say.



      The contamination of Saul Alvarez was due to consume meat, said Angel Guillermo Heredia.

      The physical trainer analyzed on his own the concentrations of clenbuterol that the "Canelo" threw in the voluntary tests carried out by the VADA (Voluntary Anti-Doping Association) on February 17 and 20 in Jalisco.

      The result for the Guadalajara man was 0.6 to 0.8 nanograms per milliliter in the first, and 0.06 to 0.08 in the second.

      "When doing a mathematical calculation, taking into account what is the half-life of clenbuterol, which is 36 hours, depends on the human being, the activity of the athlete or metabolism of the person, taking those factors, I made an exponential equation and It gives me an accuracy of 99 percent that amount (of the 'Canelo') is according to consumption of contaminated meat.

      "In my opinion, neutral, and as a scientist and with morals, as a professional, with all the experience I have, it is practically due to contamination, since the levels of 'Canelo' are too low, what happens is that there are many problems of clenbuterol in Mexico, "Heredia added.

      "There are cases above 20 or 25, or up to 40 nanograms per milliliter, and they are clearly taking that substance as doping, and one point is that the tests were in Mexico, 'Canelo' ate that meat in Mexico."
      If today I took a pill, the minimum dose of clenbuterol, which is 0.02 milligrams, means that when I take that pill I will have an amount of 20 ng / ml in the urine, and after 36 hours I will have 10 ng / ml, and after another 36 hours I will have 5 thousand.

      Then, the "Canelo" had less than 1 ng / ml, and even lower 3 days later, so it goes according to what is metabolism of clenbuterol, it is nothing, and 'Canelo' for me is clean.


      I dont get why the NFL bans or even tests for clenbuterol. Its just used to cut weight. Its very similar to ephedra and sudafed. Its not a controlled substance but is prescription only. Stronger than caffeine but not close to amphetamine as a stimulant.

      You can argue for combat sports with weigh ins that it is a PED but for football or sports with no weigh in, it is very misleading to place it in the same category as anabolic steroids. Its almost as dumb as them testing for marijuana, which would not help them in any way.

      Also as I said above, the test only gives you a snapshot of his levels at one point in time. He could have those levels from eating contaminated meat or taking a larger dose intentionally and having stopped a while back. The test CANNOT prove that either way. The only thing the test really shows is he didnt take a large dose recently within the last few days. He could have ended a clen cycle or he could have eaten bad meat. You CANNOT tell from the test.
      Last edited by elfag; 03-20-2018, 02:32 AM.

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        #23
        Originally posted by el***
        I dont get why the NFL bans or even tests for clenbuterol. Its just used to cut weight. Its very similar to ephedra and sudafed. Its not a controlled substance but is prescription only. Stronger than caffeine but not close to amphetamine as a stimulant.

        You can argue for combat sports with weigh ins that it is a PED but for football or sports with no weigh in, it is very misleading to place it in the same category as anabolic steroids. Its almost as dumb as them testing for marijuana, which would not help them in any way.

        Also as I said above, the test only gives you a snapshot of his levels at one point in time. He could have those levels from eating contaminated meat or taking a larger dose intentionally and having stopped a while back. The test CANNOT prove that either way. The only thing the test really shows is he didnt take a large dose recently within the last few days. He could have ended a clen cycle or he could have eaten bad meat. You CANNOT tell from the test.
        They said people have used it as a masking agent before so that's probably why the NFL doesn't let it run.

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