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  • #41
    Originally posted by WesternChamp View Post
    your fighter got popped for a dirty test and the other team is suppose to just stay quiet about it?????

    had this been ggg, canelo's team would be running their mouth too, prolly even more!
    Then stand on your principals and pull out the fight. If Canelo did something that GGG's team truly thought was so bad they don't have to fight. But screaming about it while turning around and taking the money makes them complicit if you really think there is a cover up to look the other way then GGG is also in on it. They look like the wife who screams to everyone they think their husband is cheating but as long as he keeps coming home with expensive gifts she is never leaving him. Either stand on morals, principal and walk away or STFU it's counterproductive to promoting your PPV. It actually takes money out of GGG's pocket because he get's paid less if the PPV doesn't sell. Which is why you don't hear Loeffler saying jack shyt. Loeffler needs to explain to his trainer that you are hurting GGG's money. We all know the fight isn't being canceled if that were what GGG wanted he would of pulled out last week and Nevada was never going to pull the plug when everyone including GGG wants to get paid.
    Last edited by bigdunny1; 03-15-2018, 08:42 AM.

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    • #42
      these mofos are acting like Canelo showed up to fight on the wrong night instead of that Canelo failed a drug test. This isn't a small "OOPS" and of course the opponent and his team have every right to feel the way they do. FOH. People feel so entitled because they are big names, you fckd up.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
        Then stand on your principals and pull out the fight. If Canelo did something that GGG's team truly thought was so bad they don't have to fight. But screaming about it while turning around and taking the money makes them complicit if you really think there is a cover up to look the other way then GGG is also in on it. They look like the wife who screams to everyone they think their husband is cheating but as long as he keeps coming home with expensive gifts she is never leaving him. Either stand on morals, principal and walk away or STFU it's counterproductive to promoting your PPV. It actually takes money out of GGG's pocket because he get's paid less if the PPV doesn't sell. Which is why you don't hear Loeffler saying jack shyt. Loeffler needs to explain to his trainer that you are hurting GGG's money. We all know the fight isn't being canceled if that were what GGG wanted he would of pulled out last week and Nevada was never going to pull the plug when everyone including GGG wants to get paid.
        I would think that GGG should pull out when the NSAC has completed their investigation if it's not satisfactory.

        I can clearly understand why team GGG makes a lot of noise right now simply because of all the disruption coming from WBA and WBC. Both of them declare Canelos innocence based on nothing but their own greed.

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        • #44
          Golovkin will make a huge statement by beating Canelo this time. It will be his defining moment in the sport and he relishes in that. I'm a fan of both fighters but the fact that Canelo has been juicing is deplorable and will only make the victory for Golovkin sweeter. Canelo better be prepared for an aggression he hasn't experienced before. Looking forward to this one.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
            Then stand on your principals and pull out the fight. If Canelo did something that GGG's team truly thought was so bad they don't have to fight. But screaming about it while turning around and taking the money makes them complicit if you really think there is a cover up to look the other way then GGG is also in on it. They look like the wife who screams to everyone they think their husband is cheating but as long as he keeps coming home with expensive gifts she is never leaving him. Either stand on morals, principal and walk away or STFU it's counterproductive to promoting your PPV. It actually takes money out of GGG's pocket because he get's paid less if the PPV doesn't sell. Which is why you don't hear Loeffler saying jack shyt. Loeffler needs to explain to his trainer that you are hurting GGG's money. We all know the fight isn't being canceled if that were what GGG wanted he would of pulled out last week and Nevada was never going to pull the plug when everyone including GGG wants to get paid.

            If the fight is sanctioned and the opponent who tested dirty isn't suspended wouldn't the challenger by default as a mandatory to at least one of those belts get the belt if the champion pulls out of the fight? Let's not act like Sulaiman wouldn't love to find a way of justifying transferring that belt back to Canelo. I get your argument cuz but I think you are looking at the situation too planly as the B-side I doubt there is much in the way of protection for Golovkin within those contracts.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
              I would think that GGG should pull out when the NSAC has completed their investigation if it's not satisfactory.

              I can clearly understand why team GGG makes a lot of noise right now simply because of all the disruption coming from WBA and WBC. Both of them declare Canelos innocence based on nothing but their own greed.
              That makes no sense if you wanted out you don't have to wait for any investigation. Plenty examples of fighters pulling out long before a formal investigation. Especially when day 1 everyone said nothing will happen with an investigation because there was already precedent with Francisco Vargas a little over a year ago and WADA stance on this and recommendation is listed on their website which is to not punish the athlete. There was only ever probably a 5% chance at best that Nevada was going to cancel this fight. Nobody is forcing GGG to fight he wants to fight. He's not a victim if Nevada doesn't cancel the fight because that's clearly what the GGG camp wants!

              Let me clear the suspense for you Nevada is NOT canceling the fight everyone including GGG knows it and if GGG truly wanted out he doesn't even need Nevada. The best time to pull out is last week. Waiting for Nevada and more evidence to come out pointing to meat contamination and Canelo being cleared and then GGG pulls out looks worst plus it wastes a training camp and costs him countless millions for an older fighter with not much time left in the game. The fight is happening otherwise GGG wouldn't be training for it but if you ain't pulling out on principal then sell the fight you dummy and put a mussel on your trainer. That's what I would be doing if I was Loeffler LMAO
              Last edited by bigdunny1; 03-15-2018, 08:56 AM.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
                Then stand on your principals and pull out the fight. If Canelo did something that GGG's team truly thought was so bad they don't have to fight. But screaming about it while turning around and taking the money makes them complicit if you really think there is a cover up to look the other way then GGG is also in on it. They look like the wife who screams to everyone they think their husband is cheating but as long as he keeps coming home with expensive gifts she is never leaving him. Either stand on morals, principal and walk away or STFU it's counterproductive to promoting your PPV. It actually takes money out of GGG's pocket because he get's paid less if the PPV doesn't sell. Which is why you don't hear Loeffler saying jack shyt. Loeffler needs to explain to his trainer that you are hurting GGG's money. We all know the fight isn't being canceled if that were what GGG wanted he would of pulled out last week and Nevada was never going to pull the plug when everyone including GGG wants to get paid.

                so pull out of the fight, lose money and plus canelo gets no suspension or fine or anything? i think that's what sanchez is barking at is that he wants something to be done about canelo. a suspension, a fine, anything!!!

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by turnedup View Post
                  If the fight is sanctioned and the opponent who tested dirty isn't suspended wouldn't the challenger by default as a mandatory to at least one of those belts get the belt if the champion pulls out of the fight? Let's not act like Sulaiman wouldn't love to find a way of justifying transferring that belt back to Canelo. I get your argument cuz but I think you are looking at the situation too planly as the B-side I doubt there is much in the way of protection for Golovkin within those contracts.
                  He is not going to be suspended because Vargas wasn't suspended and because WADA doesn't recommend him be suspended and there is precedent in boxing and other sports for him not to be. And GGG hasn't once said I am still fighting because I fear I will be stripped or punished if I pull out. Wilder pulled out the Povetkin fight before any formal investigation and didn't lose his belt and he was facing a real mandatory. Canelo hasn't been ranked by the WBC in 2 years and isn't a mandatory for any of the other belts. GGG could of pulled out last week and not lost a thing but a big payday. Loeffler the only one in that camp with a brain cell isn't screaming for Canelo to be suspended or that GGG is pulling out the fight. Nobody wants the fight canceled INCLUDING GGG. So since it's very clear they don't want to pull out the fight and want to still get paid then why have your trainer keep making ****** comments that could drive away PPV sales which takes money out of GGG's pocket? It makes no sense. Either you shut up and fight or stand on principal and just say you are disgusted and pull out the fight.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by WesternChamp View Post
                    so pull out of the fight, lose money and plus canelo gets no suspension or fine or anything? i think that's what sanchez is barking at is that he wants something to be done about canelo. a suspension, a fine, anything!!!
                    Then tell Sanchez to call up Loeffler GGG's promoter and get on the same page because he's putting out the opposite message of what GGG's promoter wants. I will make it clear...A Canelo suspension = BAD for GGG. lol They don't want that. Means fight is canceled and he doesn't get paid. Means at best the fight is postponed a year and GGG is now older. If they wanted this then Loeffler would of pulled GGG out immediately last week and screamed from the mountain that they are not fighting Canelo and that he must be suspended. Why didn't that happen? Because the fight is going to happen but Sanchez seems hell bent on trying to sabotage his fighters own PPV buys LMAO

                    Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
                    If you talk up the cheating, you decrease the PPVs, and take money out of GGG's pocket! Bad strategy! If you want the money, be quiet! If you want to stand on principles, cancel the fight!
                    Last edited by bigdunny1; 03-15-2018, 09:20 AM.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
                      Then tell Sanchez to call up Loeffler GGG's promoter and get on the same page because he's putting out the opposite message of what GGG's promoter wants. I will make it clear...A Canelo suspension = BAD for GGG. lol They don't want that. Means fight is canceled and he doesn't get paid. Means at best the fight is postponed a year and GGG is now older. If they wanted this then Loeffler would of pulled GGG out immediately last week and screamed from the mountain that they are not fighting Canelo and that he must be suspended. Why didn't that happen? Because the fight is going to happen but Sanchez seems hell bent on trying to sabotage his fighters own PPV buys LMAO



                      im not saying to cancel the fight! but something has to be done to canelo. at least hit him with a fine. that's what sanchez is crying about. there's literally nothing being done to canelo and this is why sanchez been running his mouth.

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