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  • #51
    Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
    That makes no sense if you wanted out you don't have to wait for any investigation.
    Who says they want out???? So far they know nothing but Canelo having tested positive.

    Plenty examples of fighters pulling out long before a formal investigation. Especially when day 1 everyone said nothing will happen with an investigation because there was already precedent with Francisco Vargas a little over a year ago and WADA stance on this and recommendation is listed on their website which is to not punish the athlete. There was only ever probably a 5% chance at best that Nevada was going to cancel this fight. Nobody is forcing GGG to fight he wants to fight. He's not a victim if Nevada doesn't cancel the fight because that's clearly what the GGG camp wants!
    Hmmm.... Relevance???

    Let me clear the suspense for you Nevada is NOT canceling the fight everyone including GGG knows it and if GGG truly wanted out he doesn't even need Nevada. The best time to pull out is last week. Waiting for Nevada and more evidence to come out pointing to meat contamination and Canelo being cleared and then GGG pulls out looks worst plus it wastes a training camp and costs him countless millions for an older fighter with not much time left in the game. The fight is happening otherwise GGG wouldn't be training for it but if you ain't pulling out on principal then sell the fight you dummy and put a mussel on your trainer. That's what I would be doing if I was Loeffler LMAO
    Why would they pull out if Canelo is cleared? Why do you assume that GGG wants out right now? Seems strange.

    My take is that if Canelo is cleared, GGG will only pull out if the investigation is blatantly negligent (which I certainly wont rule out).

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    • #52
      Originally posted by WesternChamp View Post
      im not saying to cancel the fight! but something has to be done to canelo. at least hit him with a fine. that's what sanchez is crying about. there's literally nothing being done to canelo and this is why sanchez been running his mouth.
      That's the problem you can't do something to Canelo without somehow impacting the fight that the GGG camp clearly wants to still happen. A fight that they still need to promote to maximize GGG's payday. Any penalty to Canelo either threatens to cancel/suspend the fight or drastically impacts your job in promoting it and getting fans to buy the PPV. Which is why Loeffler isn't making the comments that dirty sanchez is making. lol Loeffler knows the fight won't be canceled doesn't want the fight to be canceled hence why he didn't cancel it himself last week. If someone should have GGG's back and screaming for Canelo to be suspended or fined it would come from his own promoter right? If Sanchez is this upset then go into Loeffler's office and cancel the fight or at least get on the same page with your own promoter. Otherwise STFU and just get your fighter ready you are hurting the promotion of your own PPV

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      • #53
        Clenelo is juiced to the eyeballs.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
          Who says they want out???? So far they know nothing but Canelo having tested positive.

          Hmmm.... Relevance???


          Why would they pull out if Canelo is cleared? Why do you assume that GGG wants out right now? Seems strange.

          My take is that if Canelo is cleared, GGG will only pull out if the investigation is blatantly negligent (which I certainly wont rule out).
          You did you said they are waiting to pull out if the investigation isn't on the up and up. NEWSFLASH they don't want the fight called off if this is swept under the rug GGG is complicit in it. They don't need a investigation to pull out the fight. If they were that angered and disgusted by this they would of pulled out and screamed for Canelo to be suspended as they look for another opponent.

          I don't think for a moment GGG wants out the fight but I do think Sanchez wants to portray fake outrage when he more then anyone else knows no matter what his fighter is not puling out. So get your fighter ready and STFU at this point. All this nonsense only hurts the fight that your promoter is trying to sell. Which is why you not hearing this crap from Loeffler only Sanchez. You are not grasping the simple logic that the more damage you do and paint Canelo and this fight to the public = less people buy the PPV? Which means GGG loses money.
          Last edited by bigdunny1; 03-15-2018, 09:55 AM.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
            The positive thing I gather from this story, is that the NSAC has an ongoing investigation.
            goes to show how blatantly corrupt the WBC is to say a guy under investigation is innocent. whatever "investigation" that is is already tainted with crooks. Clenelo will get away with doping.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
              That's the problem you can't do something to Canelo without somehow impacting the fight that the GGG camp clearly wants to still happen. A fight that they still need to promote to maximize GGG's payday. Any penalty to Canelo either threatens to cancel/suspend the fight or drastically impacts your job in promoting it and getting fans to buy the PPV. Which is why Loeffler isn't making the comments that dirty sanchez is making. lol Loeffler knows the fight won't be canceled doesn't want the fight to be canceled hence why he didn't cancel it himself last week. If someone should have GGG's back and screaming for Canelo to be suspended or fined it would come from his own promoter right? If Sanchez is this upset then go into Loeffler's office and cancel the fight or at least get on the same page with your own promoter. Otherwise STFU and just get your fighter ready you are hurting the promotion of your own PPV
              i dont think it'll impact the fight in a negative way at all. in fact, i think the fight will even do more knowing that canelo will be suspended after this fight or knowing that he's being fined. i dont think team ggg wants to cancel the fight, i said this already, i believe they want canelo to be accountable for what he did because at this point, nothing is being done to him. lets not act like if its ggg, he would be getting off this easy because he wont.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
                If you talk up the cheating, you decrease the PPVs, and take money out of GGG's pocket! Bad strategy! If you want the money, be quiet! If you want to stand on principles, cancel the fight!
                I dunno, I think it might actually help the sales. Its abit of intrigue isn't it? The first fight wasn't a great watch, but people probably want to see what a new beefed up Canelo might do lol.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by WesternChamp View Post
                  i dont think it'll impact the fight in a negative way at all. in fact, i think the fight will even do more knowing that canelo will be suspended after this fight or knowing that he's being fined. i dont think team ggg wants to cancel the fight, i said this already, i believe they want canelo to be accountable for what he did because at this point, nothing is being done to him. lets not act like if its ggg, he would be getting off this easy because he wont.
                  If Nevada ruled he needs to be suspended then there won't be a fight. This happened more then 2 months before the fight they will likely rule in the next week or so it's not going to drag on. If Nevada says he needs to be fined then it's a bigger cloud over the fight and likely turns more folks off from buying it. Sanchez wants Canelo to be punished yet his own promoter doesn't because it effects their wallet too. In a perfect world Loeffler wants this swept under the rug and canelo cleared of everything so he can promote the fight the best he can. No promoter wants this hanging over their fight especially when it's a PPV. Loeffler knows the fight is still happening but his own fighters trainer is making his job selling it that much harder. And if Sanchez was worried about punishing Canelo and standing on principal he could refuse to train GGG, convince his fighter to pull out and have his promoter scream from the mountain top to suspend and or fine Canelo. If he's not going to do those things then STFU and just train your fighter.

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                  • #59
                    All dopers should just relocate their camps to Mexico and get juiced to the eyeballs. you have a fireproof excuse if caught. somebody should tell Pedvetkin to seek Mexican citizenship. that poor guy Alberto Contador's only crime was not being Mexican smh. he lost his medals and got banned for two years for levels that were ten times lower than Clenelo. poor guy indeed. all juicers relocate to Mexico ASAP. bigdunny will ride hard for all the dopers in Mexico.

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                    • #60
                      Barking dogs don't bite? Never heard that one before. The whole team must be sniffing clenbuterol.

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