Who hits harder, George Foreman or Deontay Wilder?

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  • Cutthroat
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    #21
    Originally posted by juggernaut666
    Holyfield had a excellent chin .

    How does that tell us Wilder hits harder ? Wilders only KNOWN guy or ASSUMED guy with a chin is Ortiz who hadnt fought power punchers up until Wilder and hes older than Foreman !
    Holyfield was barely 208lbs vs Foreman, this is an era where you could be that small or have a glass chin like Moorer/Morrison and become a champion, even cruiser had guys like 5'5 Qawi. That doesn't exist in this era. Wilder has to be sick to even come close to that weight.

    Holyfield beefed up later in his career, 215+ was near his best and most durable.

    Foreman's defense itself was horrific, that mummy guard won't work in this era because of the sheer amount of punchers you have.

    This is Foreman in '88 vs part time Italian journeyman, severely undersized, Guido Trane:



    Foreman was getting absolutely pieced up, constantly pushing off the journeyman just to keep him off him. This defense does not work in this era.

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    • Larry the boss
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      #22
      Originally posted by soul_survivor
      Da ****???

      Ali was up at about the count of 4 and he was nearly kod? GTFOH you idiot.

      And Foreman barely training.

      The way I know when someone actually hasnt seen the fight is when they over rely on the "rope a dope" because they have heard about it so much. ****ing idiot.
      Ali was seriously hurt, but the bell rang when he got up..Dundee split his glove to give him more time to recover in the corner

      https://********/DIWFHVZaGGA?t=154

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      • uppercut510
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        #23
        how exactly do we find out the answer to this? shavers is one of the hardest hitting HWs imo

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        • eco1
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          #24
          Foreman. Ask Moorer...

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          • Rubber Ducky
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            #25
            Foreman's power is far more proven, he bludgeoned a load of top heavies, while Wilder has beaten one decent heavyweight who's chin had a big question mark over it as Ortiz had never fought a puncher before Wilder.

            Foreman is clearly one of the hardest hitters of all time. Even in his 40's that power alone made him a contender and won him the title. Even young heavy hitters like Morrison and Briggs decided to box old Foreman rather than trade with him. Foreman may not have had that explosive one shot power Wilder has but he had that brutal heavy, clubbing power that made guys shell up or get on their bike as soon as they tasted a little of his power.
            Last edited by Rubber Ducky; 03-14-2018, 05:05 PM.

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            • gdub27
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              #26
              Originally posted by j0zef
              Difficult question to answer. I think their power is very different. Wilder is more akin to Julian Jackson - he generates force through velocity and has a lot of 1 shot KOs. Foreman is more like Golovkin - someone with thudding power, naturally very heavy hands.

              One guy is much more likely to knock you the the F out. The other guy is more likely to make you quit.
              ^^This is how I feel about it too.

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              • skelva
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                #27
                Holyfield is hardly the reference you need 'cause he could eat punches from anyone. As a matter of fact sometimes it seems like Holyfield just liked to get hit. He was actually out-jabbing Bowe from the outside but preferred to go inside and rumble with him, punch for punch. There are very few chins stronger than Holyfield.

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                • Combat Talk Radio
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by HeadShots
                  Deontay by a mile. you can't even name someone Foreman KOed with 1 punch until u get to a LHW Moorer and much later in his career when he was roided out of his mind.


                  Deontay not only hits harder. he's also more skilled and faster. Foreman had 2 left feet and couldn't throw a straight punch to save his life.
                  I'm sorry, I cannot allow this blasphemy.

                  Deontay Wilder does not and will never have anything rivaling "DOWN GOES FRAZIER! DOWN GOES FRAZIER!".

                  George Foreman walked right through the undisputed, damn near unified heavyweight that was fresh off beating "The World's Greatest". There is no fighter with power like Foreman in his prime, period point blank.

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                  • ROSS CALIFORNIA
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                    #29
                    Who really knows, but it seems like Wilder could hit a little harder, but he is no where the fighter George Foreman was.

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                    • -Kev-
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                      #30
                      There's no way for us to measure that.

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