Comments Thread For: WBC Doctor on Canelo: Everything Points To Contamination

[Basco]

This is comical at this point!

[Boksfan]

Well after Mayweather made Clenelo his bytch he felt sorry for him and told him how to cheat doping tests, as we can see Clenelo is still no match to Mayweather.

[aboutfkntime]

Last couple of posts have pretty much nailed it. Clen has a half life of 34-36 hours (normally. Could the flushing be accelerated ? don't know). The amount in his system could either be residual from juicing, else from meat.

Helps to bear in mind that cases of food poisoning which produce symptoms usually occur with a concentration of around 9 ng/ml. However, heavy emphasis there on 'produce symptoms'. The amount of clen in meat will vary of course, and depends how much you eat.

The Contador case is interesting. Contador was tested 8 times during the tour de france, then a test came back with 0.05ng (Canelo was 0.6 to 0.8). Contador blamed a piece of tainted meat he had polished off over the previous two days, but he got banned even though (i) previous frequent testing showed the amounts could not be a residual result of previous juicing and (ii) the amount of 0.05 was too low for any possible advantage to have been gained.

So lets pretend Contador was telling the truth, and compare with Canelo's case. Firstly the meat Canelo ate had to have a much higher clen concentration than Contador's (possible), else he ate a lot more of it (possible). Hence Canelo's test of 0.6ng to 0.8ng compared to Contador's 0.05ng. But the material differences are:

(1) Canelo doesn't have Contador's defence of having a string of previous/recent tests showing he was not on a juicing cycle

(2) Canelo's defence of 'tainted meat' carries greater credibility than Contador's given Clen is much more widely used in Mexico than in the EU.

In a nutshell, clen will flush out of your system at the same rate whatever its initial source, so the amount at time of testing can only ever give indication of its source if it exceeds whatever amount is deemed to be 'not possible from meat contamination'. Saying the amount is consistent with meat contamination means its 'not inconsistent' with meat contamination. The amount is also consistent with a residual effects of a juicing cycle.

At the end of the day you end up in a 'balance of probabilities' situation. In Contador's case the amounts and prior tests would indicate he was probably innocent, yet the improbability of having clen in EU meat is against him. In Canelo's case, well, given the amount of clen in Mexican meat and how high profile he is, he's certainly guilty of something, be it ******ity, juicing, or both. Take your pick.

you are correct..... it looks like Canelo ate more tainted meat than the toothpick Contador..... and he likely ate it 1/2 days earlier..... hence the difference

now, that was complete bullshht of course...... but it ABSOLUTELY could explain the difference that you pointed out

#theories
#opinions
#guesswork

NOT making excuses for Clenelo, just keeping it real

unless Canelo is forced to take the most advanced testing available (not sure if the hair follicle suggestion is even possible) then we may never know..... Sanchez and his Team should be getting medical advice to see if that is possible, and then they should be seeking legal advice to make it happen

and they should do that for no other reason than to fk with Canelo during his camp lol

[aboutfkntime]

That would be interesting. Obviously he's going to go with the contaminated meat explanation. But he and his team need to explain why they didn't take the same basic precautions that hundreds of other Mexican athletes - like journeyman boxers and small time footballers on a fraction of Canelo's income - have been taking to ensure that they didn't eat any of that contaminated beef.

yea, but how ?

Canelo OBVIOUSLY has a protocol regarding this issue

that is obvious, because..... 1) he has never tested positive before..... 2) he has been enrolled with VADA for the last 5 years..... 3) treated/tainted beef is widespread in Mexico

so he must have broken his protocol..... so I find it hard to believe that he cannot name the day/location that this occurred

[Stevenubbs]

Wilder?

That guy was K.Oed and referee saved his ass

No he wasn’t. He was hurt and did the right thing in smothering Ortiz onslaught. Lolcmon man come up with another excuse or give that man his respect.

[Stevenubbs]

There is not a specialist that say that Canelo is a cheater.

Only the ****** haters from here.

Lmao and only the blind sheep like yourself believe this load of crap #dummygraphic

[stealthradon]

yea, but how ?

Canelo OBVIOUSLY has a protocol regarding this issue

that is obvious, because..... 1) he has never tested positive before..... 2) he has been enrolled with VADA for the last 5 years..... 3) treated/tainted beef is widespread in Mexico

so he must have broken his protocol..... so I find it hard to believe that he cannot name the day/location that this occurred

2: Incorrect
3: Incorrect

[Stevenubbs]

This is just another example that boxing is the most racist sport. If this was, Wilder, Spence, or Thurman they would be banned and stripped.

Wait.. so if it was mayweather... he would get away with it. But if it were golovkin he’d be persecuted to the fullest but because the Mexican gets the treatment you call it racist. This has everything to do with MONEY not race. Man put that **** away and stop it with the racism cry’s man everyone is tired of that ****. Again. MONEY is the winner here. Not race.

[PeasantCrusha]

Tainted Beef Nation...

[Sheldon312]

Wait.. so if it was mayweather... he would get away with it. But if it were golovkin he’d be persecuted to the fullest but because the Mexican gets the treatment you call it racist. This has everything to do with MONEY not race. Man put that **** away and stop it with the racism cry’s man everyone is tired of that ****. Again. MONEY is the winner here. Not race.

No surprise hearing this **** from you. You were defending Kov when he was caught calling Adonis an monkey