How does Wilder deserve 40% vs AJ, if his career high is $2,1 million?

[Buckfever]

What about Fury? That would do over 100k if there was a stadium big enough in the Uk. I do want to see AJ AND Wilder next, at least the Ring belt will be on the line as well.

If Fury becomes an active fighter again, but not now.

[CaineP]

But they didnt pay parker 40% they paid him inbetween 30-35% which is documented by Duco and david higgins.

As for povetkin, he wont get that percentage, he is mandatory so his percentage will be lower than 40% as per the ABC org's rules so that point is moot.

Wilder SHOULD get no more than 40%.. he DESERVES less than that. He'll be overpaid as were the others... but thats entirely different to earning or deserving that figure.

Parker got 15 mio and Joshua close to 22 mio. That is a 40/60 deal.

BUT...assume he got 35%.
Do you think Wilder should get more or less than that.

[yammy25]

Bro... Stop it...Stop it.

I have a question for you...

At this moment....who is the fighter that will generate the highest career pay for Joshua!!!

ok so you havent answered anything that i put forward to you... i'll take that as a signal that you cant.

Now as for your second question lets look at marketability and everything involved in that.

Does wilder command PPV figures in the USA? no...
if he did his promoters would win mandatory purse bids, they dont as is evident with the povetkin fight.

Does joshua command PPV in the USA - absolutely not. Neither of them are relevant on that stage in the PPV market of america. You know why ? because the casual fan base represents upwards of 70 to 80% of buying power for PPV, and noone gives a **** about either of them in the USA.

If the fight was staged in the USA, on PPV, you have no PPV figures or numbers significant enough to command the costs involved, you also lose out on alot of PPV sales from the casuals in the UK due to time difference..

I can guarantee you you would see a 20-30% drop in UK PPV sales by changing the time we watch a headline fight from 10:30 PM to almost 4:00AM. that again means risk does not necessarily equal reward.

So we know.. and even the wilder fans on here will agree with more, that the majority revenue stream for the fight comes from the UK casual fan. Given that... you want to know who is ANTHONY joshuas biggest money maker right now? and by that i mean who makes anthony joshua the most money and nobdy else....the answer is Tyson Fury

[CaineP]

But they didnt pay parker 40% they paid him inbetween 30-35% which is documented by Duco and david higgins.

As for povetkin, he wont get that percentage, he is mandatory so his percentage will be lower than 40% as per the ABC org's rules so that point is moot.

Wilder SHOULD get no more than 40%.. he DESERVES less than that. He'll be overpaid as were the others... but thats entirely different to earning or deserving that figure.

Wilder stated multiple times he will accpet the 40/60, as long as they return it when they go to the states. He even said he wll accept 10/90...BUT, reverse it when we come to the states.

That is a FAIR deal!!!!

But eddienthe weazel knows there is more money in the states. He talks all this Cardiff this and that but he knows. At the end of the day...it will all be in vegas!!!

[yammy25]

Parker got 15 mio and Joshua close to 22 mio. That is a 40/60 deal.

BUT...assume he got 35%.
Do you think Wilder should get more or less than that.

Quote directly from David higgins

"He is good to deal with. He lacks an ego and he will listen if you have good points. It has been a tough negotiation but we are nearly there.

"We have agreed a split of the revenue. We have agreed a split formally and the Parker side gets somewhere between 30 and 35 per cent.

"We have come a long way. The initial announcement offer was a lot less."

IMO opinion wilder will get 40%. i dont think he deserves it and heres my reason why.

If AJ beat wilder last night, would you state that Parker deserved 40% given his drawing power and commercial ability.. given that he has sold more PPV in his home country than wilder has in his.

[yammy25]

Wilder stated multiple times he will accpet the 40/60, as long as they return it when they go to the states. He even said he wll accept 10/90...BUT, reverse it when we come to the states.

That is a FAIR deal!!!!

But eddienthe weazel knows there is more money in the states. He talks all this Cardiff this and that but he knows. At the end of the day...it will all be in vegas!!!

Again, Hearn and AJ have both been on record and stated that thats fine.. but youre acting as though the onus is on hearn.

Have finkel, or jay deas or haymon contact hearn and state that vehemently. Once they do that, I'll be more prepared to say hearn is dodging.

Wilder doesnt make his fights... his management do. he can say what he likes but until his management come forward and say OK hearn, were happy for that.. like hearn has said, then again.. moot point.

[CaineP]

Quote directly from David higgins

"He is good to deal with. He lacks an ego and he will listen if you have good points. It has been a tough negotiation but we are nearly there.

"We have agreed a split of the revenue. We have agreed a split formally and the Parker side gets somewhere between 30 and 35 per cent.

"We have come a long way. The initial announcement offer was a lot less."

IMO opinion wilder will get 40%. i dont think he deserves it and heres my reason why.

If AJ beat wilder last night, would you state that Parker deserved 40% given his drawing power and commercial ability.. given that he has sold more PPV in his home country than wilder has in his.

Well.....what you only need to know, at this moment....wilder will be his highest payday ever!!!!

He deserves at least 40%!!!

[Curt Henning]

Well.....what you only need to know, at this moment....wilder will be his highest payday ever!!!!

He deserves at least 40%!!!

dont bother

these guys will say anything to excuse anthony "restraining order" joshua

"we dont want you in our ring"

"wilder could have been here tonight but he didnt come ...they dont want the fight..theyve never approached us"

LOL....what a clownshow hearn is

[yammy25]

Well.....what you only need to know, at this moment....wilder will be his highest payday ever!!!!

He deserves at least 40%!!!

As ive stated in my other post with a lot of sense and logic, i dont believ he is.

That isnt my opinion based on my preference for either fighter, thats my opinion based on my understanding and knowledge of both fighters respective drawing power, respective market base, and implications on each provided the location of the fight.

At this moment in time, the vast majority of revenue comes from those that would be just as much if not more willing to see Fury than Wilder. which like it or not, is the BUYING base of the UK customers.

We represent a higher proportion of revenue for an AJ fight than the USA, regardless of wilders involvement.

[CaineP]

As ive stated in my other post with a lot of sense and logic, i dont believ he is.

That isnt my opinion based on my preference for either fighter, thats my opinion based on my understanding and knowledge of both fighters respective drawing power, respective market base, and implications on each provided the location of the fight.

At this moment in time, the vast majority of revenue comes from those that would be just as much if not more willing to see Fury than Wilder. which like it or not, is the BUYING base of the UK customers.

We represent a higher proportion of revenue for an AJ fight than the USA, regardless of wilders involvement.

I understand but i disgagree.
I an not interested in who gets what. Just want ro see the fight.

But we have to stop acting like Wilder is a nobody.

I said this...If Parker got 40%.
Or say 35%, then the other Champion, from a potentially bigger / larger market should be on a premium vis a vis Parker. You cant deny that!!!