The Issue of "Stacking" Handwraps

[SplitSecond]

I don't believe what Hopkins said is true. Tape is not cement. The way Trinidad wrapped his hands is legal almost everywhere but New York. Trinidad was a devastating puncher because of hand speed and leverage not extra tape. Vargas needed a reason for his KO loss but he just got blasted out by a better fighter. Trinidad was the one who cracked Mayorga's iron jaw long after he lost to Hopkins. Canelo will wrap his hands the same way and he will not KO GGG in my opinion.

No one said cement, that's taking it to the extreme.

I have always been of the opinion that Tito's power was not natural. He had some casting effect going on. He was a puncher obviously, but his power just wasn't natural. You could see the way his gloves/hands landed and the effect on guys, his gloves were far too solid.

[Illmatic94]

I don't believe what Hopkins said is true. Tape is not cement. The way Trinidad wrapped his hands is legal almost everywhere but New York. Trinidad was a devastating puncher because of hand speed and leverage not extra tape. Vargas needed a reason for his KO loss but he just got blasted out by a better fighter. Trinidad was the one who cracked Mayorga's iron jaw long after he lost to Hopkins. Canelo will wrap his hands the same way and he will not KO GGG in my opinion.

he didn't say tape is cement. read the quote again. he said over time it hardens like a cast. Virgil Hunter protested the same vs Kessler and the commission made them rewrap it. that was in California. is stacking legal there? so you have Hopkins, Naazim, Bouie, Abel Sanchez, Virgil Hunter and Roach on record all saying stacking creates an advantage. and Emmanuel Steward also said it.

Vargas and Joppy can always be brushed off as salty losers. but explain how Tito wiped out Joppy in five rounds but Hopkins hit Joppy with every punch and combination under the sun and couldn't drop him. that's fishy AF to me.

Read the quote from Tito's dad again. that's all the proof you need. he admitted that rewrapping Tito under NY rules affected his power. that should really end the debate whether stacking is an advantage or not.

[Robbie Barrett]

If it doesn't break the rules, then it's not cheating. Simple as.

[Illmatic94]

If it doesn't break the rules, then it's not cheating. Simple as.

If stacking creates a cast in NYC then it also creates a cast in Nevada. don't you think? or what you're saying is if Tito vs Hopkins had occurred in Vegas that Naazim and Bouie would have zero issues with Tito's wraps? I'm not saying it happened during Canelo/GGG I just made the thread because I've seen posters say there's no advantage to it and it's no big deal.

what are the rules in California? if you know. because that's where Kessler vs Ward took place and Virgil Hunter made Kessler rewrap his hands and commissioner agreed.

this isn't about Canelo/GGG. is just about whether stacking is an advantage. just read the quote from Tito's father. he said that rewrapping his son's hands under NYC rules diminished his power. doesn't that imply Tito is enhanced with stacked wraps? that should end it.

your beef is whether or not it occurred during Canelo/GGG. that's not my beef. I just wanted to prove stacking is indeed an unfair advantage. legal or not.

[stealthradon]

If it doesn't break the rules, then it's not cheating. Simple as.

Tell me again, Wobbie.
Where is the neck area of a person.

[4truth]

It's only an advantage if one of the trainers is ignorant of the rules and does not use the same advantage.

[Ray Corso]

The biggest problems with hand wrapping from state to state is the amount of gauze allowed. If your allowed two rolls then you can double up on tape lawyers easily.
There's also rules on how much and "where" the gauze and tape
can be placed.

The video I just watched showing Canelo's wraps would be protested by me back in my time. The flexibility and movement on the knuckle area would be illegal. The knuckle area would have to be stationary, the Canelo wrapping could easily move the "build up" of gauze and tape OFF the knuckle area to expose the knuckles. Now if you have problem hands you won't want to do this but getting hit with knuckles in a glove is more potent than a protected area.

I see way to much gauze and I see crocked tape lines in between fingers on Canelo's hands, really sloppy.

Ray

[strykr619]

What I get with thread is DESPITE Canelo using stacked wraps GGG took his hits like a tank and kept moving. If Its "legal" in Vegas then GGG should do the same and stack as well.

Lets see how long Canelo can take GGG's best shots.

[Illmatic94]

Bumping this since Abel once again brought up the subject.

[Scopedog]

A NSAC official watches while the fighters wrap up, right? If it's in the rules and the official is satisfied that it's within the rules then there's nothing wrong with it, it's not cheating if it's not against the rules. It's not like Canelo ever badly hurt GGG anyway, Sanchez is acting like that kid on the playground with this.