Comments Thread For: Deontay Wilder: Not Only Do I Beat Joshua - I'll Knock Him Out!

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  • chrisJS
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    #31
    Originally posted by champion4ever
    But he is undefeated with over 40 victories and has knocked out every opponent who has ever stepped in the ring with him. The Ortiz who faced Wilder a few days ago would have knocked Anthony Joshua out. He was the most dangerous and feared contender in the heavyweight division for years. That's why Eddie Hearn and Team Joshua wisely chose to avoid him because of the risk he posed.
    Put Joshua in with Wilder's 40 he'd be 40-0 with 40 KO's and he'd have this version of Ortiz out quickly too but put Wilder in with Joshua's 18 I think he'd be 17-1 and I'd pick Parker over him too.

    Wilder has the worst skill set and IQ of any 40 fight 10 year veteran world title holder I've ever seen. He has power though.

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    • vitali1999
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      #32
      The fight will not be made next. Money, the longer they wait the more interest builds up, the money they make, remember Pac vs smearweather. They made public wait 5 years for that one. And look how much 💰 it made.

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      • FaustoGeraci
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        #33
        Originally posted by chrisJS
        Put Joshua in with Wilder's 40 he'd be 40-0 with 40 KO's and he'd have this version of Ortiz out quickly too but put Wilder in with Joshua's 18 I think he'd be 17-1 and I'd pick Parker over him too.

        Wilder has the worst skill set and IQ of any 40 fight 10 year veteran world title holder I've ever seen. He has power though.
        This is ridiculous. Ortiz has a damn good chance of beating Joshua. Joshua has worse stamina than Ortiz. And Parker, who went life and death with Hughie Fury would get knocked out by Wilder. What you have seen in boxing is irrelevant, because your eyes clearly cannot comprehend the sport you're watching. Can't wait to see your post after Wilder unifies.

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        • chrisJS
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          #34
          Originally posted by FaustoGeraci
          This is ridiculous. Ortiz has a damn good chance of beating Joshua. Joshua has worse stamina than Ortiz. And Parker, who went life and death with Hughie Fury would get knocked out by Wilder. What you have seen in boxing is irrelevant, because your eyes clearly cannot comprehend the sport you're watching. Can't wait to see your post after Wilder unifies.
          Ok so he's a supremely skilled technician. Technique and punching artistry of Marquez, defense of Mayweather, footwork of Lomachenko, chin of GGG and IQ of Hopkins.

          Got it.

          In the real world Ortiz is a fighter that never won a title in one of the weakest eras ever and may have been enhanced previously by PEDs and now was pushing 40.

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            #35
            Usaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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              #36
              Originally posted by chrisJS
              Ok so he's a supremely skilled technician. Technique and punching artistry of Marquez, defense of Mayweather, footwork of Lomachenko, chin of GGG and IQ of Hopkins.

              Got it.

              In the real world Ortiz is a fighter that never won a title in one of the weakest eras ever and may have been enhanced previously by PEDs and now was pushing 40.
              Ortiz is a threat at any ( hes close to 50 ) age !

              Joshua defeats him for multiple reasons however , the biggest is he will thrive on southpaws bc of his counter punching skills ....that counter right would be Ortizs worst nightmare !

              Wilders not even a counter punching style ,yet was effective . Joshua is a master at it .

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              • sportbuddha
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                #37
                Originally posted by champion4ever
                To the people who are picking AJ to win this fight, I just can't see it. How? How is it evenly humanly possible? Wilder knows only one way to fight and that's to hit. That's why the fight hasn't happen by now because Joshua won't win; Even his own handlers are confident of that.

                How is Joshua is going to evade those punches? He's heavy, has slow feet, tires easily, lacks upper body movement. It's not like he is some scientific boxer/puncher like Luis Ortiz with an extensive amateur pedigree.
                How is it evenly humanly possible?? Boxing is how he wins. I keep saying it, Wilder's biggest problem is his balance, he get's off balance way to easy and especially in exchanges. I think his problem beating AJ is that AJ's boxing fundamentals are just better in every department. Wilder's athleticism is better and he has better one punch power. History show's us that these aren't enough, you gotta be able to box. Wilder has a chance, he clips anyone with that huge right hand it's gonna work, so for this reason the match up is great.

                But he's definitely the underdog on a boxing level. AJ is slower on his feet, but then again he can afford to be because his range control is much better. Deontay is a dangerous puncher, but AJ's has more punching versatility and is the better counter puncher. Deontay's KO power is possibly higher, but AJ's hands are consistently heavier. And finally, Deontay can move around quicker but his balance is atrocious, this means he's planted and taking too much impact when he should be out of range or he's delivering his set up shots without enough power and he's liable to be countered before he gets his power punch off. As I said before, he is in big trouble on that last point, because I don't think he can learn balance now after 40 fights, and in the end it'll be when he's off balance he'll take a big shot and it'll all be over.

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                • lion33lit
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                  #38
                  Wilder better watch his mouth, because the FEAR will only increase in Team Hearn. They'll be even more determined to let Wilder age out before they really legitimately put an offer on the table. The risk of losing access to easy millions is a VERY HARD thing to do - for anyone!.....For 2018?: Jarrell(stand erect come forward My Pillow)Miller will surely be next if Parker loses, then PEDvetkin.......

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by chrisJS
                    Wilder just isn't very good and has basically no skill. He looked poor against a fighter who had been rusty as hell and was old as hell a couple of days ago. Ortiz poor stamina bailed him out as much as his power.

                    I think Joshua should be able to land first and if he's smart with his follow up which I expect he will he'll finish Wilder.

                    I'm not sold fully sold on Joshua but he has some sold skill and looks like he's improving. I'll never be sold on Wilder. I doubt he'll get any more powerful and his punch resistance won't stop better neither will his skill set.
                    To be fair, Wilder was fairly rusty himself, having fought one round in the past year.

                    Now that said, I think folks who view Joshua is slow and lumbering may be in for a surprise going forward. I think he’ll start coming in lighter and may show off faster hands and maybe even better stamina. I still consider him the favorite in this matchup.

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                      #40
                      The New Undisputed Heavyweight Champion Deontay Wilder

                      He knocks him out in the 5th. AJs chin is suspect. No head movement. BB will paw with the jab for distance, and watch which way he keeps moving too. The 1, 2 right hand, goodnight.

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