Comments Thread For: Loeffler: The Burden is on Canelo To Prove He's a Clean Athlete

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  • Robalot
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    #41
    It should not be sweep under the rug. A positive is a positive.

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    • aboutfkntime
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      #42
      Originally posted by Chuckguy
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      Hey time what are your honest thoughts?

      1) it is inexcusable, and should be investigated further.....

      2) it is up to Team Golovkin if they wish to proceed..... imho, they should defer the fight..... resetting both camps, with even stricter testing..... and Canelo should foot the bill

      there is no reason why they should be married to Cinco de Mayo

      Canelo fk'd his own party, so hard luck for him

      3) in saying that..... it is highly unlikely that Canelo would gain any type of advantage whatsoever judging by the test results, it looks to be a genuine case of contaminated meat

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        #43
        Originally posted by bluemax
        Really?? What top middleweights has he fought at 160? Canelo fights top guys who are smaller than him thats about it. Corrupt judging follows him like a leech, Seen his fight against Mayweather? If you looked at the score you thought it was competitive yet it was an embarrassing blow out. In his draw against GGG he won rounds by just surviving and well you saw the scores. Guys a ggod fighter but his record is suspect

        umm.....

        the exact same comments can - AND HAVE - been directed toward Golovkin

        Golovkin was bigger than Canelo, he was a supposed killer, and yet he couldn't do **** with Canelo

        rather than commit to that line of thinking, you should listen to the talk coming out of both camps..... because I have heard nothing but whining and excuses from Team Golovkin following that fight, just like we heard from Kovalev..... and yet Canelo has stated EXACTLY what he needs to do in order to beat Golovkin, and he has tailored his camp accordingly

        and no I don't mean clen lol

        some fights just seem obvious to me, pretty sure I can see how this one will play out.....

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        • Kali_KO
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          #44
          Can’t wait for this rematch, I thought GGG won the first fight and should repeat his performance. Now people will be wondering why Canelo looks so muscular and Cut at 160, when before he was saying he was not able to fight above 155. I hope the fight happens, but only if Canelo can prove he is clean so that it is an even playing field

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            #45
            Originally posted by aboutfkntime
            1) it is inexcusable, and should be investigated further.....

            2) it is up to Team Golovkin if they wish to proceed..... imho, they should defer the fight..... resetting both camps, with even stricter testing..... and Canelo should foot the bill

            there is no reason why they should be married to Cinco de Mayo

            Canelo fk'd his own party, so hard luck for him

            3) in saying that..... it is highly unlikely that Canelo would gain any type of advantage whatsoever judging by the test results, it looks to be a genuine case of contaminated meat
            Regarding 3: How do you know that? How does a test result look like if clenbuterol is used the****utic?

            All I would say is that it COULD be meat contamination, but we do not know. It’s on Clenelo to prove his innocence now as per standard WADA regulation. If he cannot then then for sure GGG should call off the fight.

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            • aboutfkntime
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              #46
              Originally posted by BattlingNelson
              Regarding 3: How do you know that? How does a test result look like if clenbuterol is used the****utic?

              All I would say is that it COULD be meat contamination, but we do not know. It’s on Clenelo to prove his innocence now as per standard WADA regulation. If he cannot then then for sure GGG should call off the fight.

              how do you know what a test result would look like if clenbuterol is not used the****utically?

              I said..... " most likely "

              and I said that because.....

              1) two EXPERTS stated that the positive result was almost certainly caused by meat contamination..... one of those experts being the guy who conducted the test

              2) Canelo has never previously tested positive

              this issue should be investigated, using the most advanced testing possible..... and Canelo should have to foot the bill

              and if Team Bullshht do not wish to proceed with the bout, then that decision should be entirely up to them..... imho, I think that they should defer the fight and initiate a stricter testing protocol..... to force both camps to reset

              that way..... accident or not, Golovkin will know that Canelo was clean for the entire duration of his camp.....

              if that fk's up Cinco De Mayo for Canelo, hard luck for him..... it won't affect Golovkin's payday too much, if at all

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              • Chuckguy
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                #47
                Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                1) it is inexcusable, and should be investigated further.....

                2) it is up to Team Golovkin if they wish to proceed..... imho, they should defer the fight..... resetting both camps, with even stricter testing..... and Canelo should foot the bill

                there is no reason why they should be married to Cinco de Mayo

                Canelo fk'd his own party, so hard luck for him

                3) in saying that..... it is highly unlikely that Canelo would gain any type of advantage whatsoever judging by the test results, it looks to be a genuine case of contaminated meat
                Good sh it bro

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                • Biolink
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by icha
                  it doesnt work like that, they take into consideration the levels, if levels are really low then the chances of meat contamination are high, but if the levels are high then enhancing comes into the table... they shouldnt give a pass to every mexican, they are doing it on the cases where the levels are common for meat contamination ... but you got a good point, some things need to change... even negligence should be punished...
                  Consideration of levels? Canelo had over 12x the amount of Contador who was banned. More than Contador and two other banned cyclists COMBINED... TWICE. So if 600-800 picograms Canelo had in his system is a small amount, the 50 that got Contador banned must have been microscopic.

                  This whole levels argument is BS. Its setting a horrible precedent if you let this continue with no punishment for Canelo, period.

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                  • killakali
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by stealthradon
                    "Chavez and his besmirched strength and conditioning coach, Angel Heredia, have expressed skepticism publicly about testing administered by the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association as they prepare for their May 6 catch-weight showdown in Las Vegas. Chavez and Heredia have implied Alvarez has something to hide by being particularly critical on social media about VADA testing their urine, but not their blood."

                    Canelo Alvarez’s advice to Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. regarding questioning PED testing for their fight was concise and harsh. Alvarez told reporters on a conferenc


                    Why doesn't he want to test the blood.
                    who says they didn't test canelos blood?

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                    • Nomadic
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by MDPopescu
                      ... so what?... He doesn't give a shit...
                      You got that right...lol. It's all about the money.

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