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  • Mexican_Puppet
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    #111
    Originally posted by chrisJS
    I already did.



    So you are contradicting yourself though? Or do you think it's unfair that Canelo walks into the ring significantly outweighing his opponents?
    No, you did not. You only quote a list of others athletes that were positive with clembuterol.

    What SPECIALIST talked about the case of Canelo? Who?

    Canelo outweighed some rivals, and that was sh.it but were not all of them.

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    • Mexican_Puppet
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      #112
      Originally posted by GGG Gloveking
      In both cases, someone does. What's your point?
      That is not the same, don't be that idiot.

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      • GGG Gloveking
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        #113
        Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet
        That is not the same, don't be that idiot.
        You're arguing intent, im arguing negligence. He was negligent in consuming potentially tainted meat.

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        • Mexican_Puppet
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          #114
          Originally posted by GGG Gloveking
          You're arguing intent, im arguing negligence. He was negligent in consuming potentially tainted meat.
          I'm arguing with facts, you like a kid.

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          • GGG Gloveking
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            #115
            Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet
            I'm arguing with facts, you like a kid.
            The fact is, Canelo failed a drug test. Trying to argue that it came from tainted meat is what is called supposition. Also, trying to argue that he intentionally took clen is supposition.

            But the fact is, Canelo failed a drug test.

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            • chrisJS
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              #116
              Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet
              No, you did not. You only quote a list of others athletes that were positive with clembuterol.

              What SPECIALIST talked about the case of Canelo? Who?

              Canelo outweighed some rivals, and that was sh.it but were not all of them.
              Athletes that had 1/10th the amount in their body. Nobody has spoken specifically about this case since it's less than 48 hours old and everyone is in damage control to make sure the sports biggest fight happens.

              This is telling IMO.
              Originally posted by chrisJS
              The New York Times’s Juliet Macur, reporting on the Contador case, wrote the following in Sept 2010:

              “Fernando Ramos, a professor at the University of Coimbra in Portugal who has studied clenbuterol contamination in meat for 20 years, said it was highly unlikely that Contador tested positive from eating meat other than liver, noting that the concentration would have to be so high that the animal would have died before being slaughtered.

              “When asked what the chances were that Contador’s positive test, even at such low levels, was a result of the meat he ate, Ramos said, 'I can say 99% it's impossible'.

              Ramos says it’s possible to ingest detectable amounts of clenbuterol from livestock—but only if you eat the liver of the animal, “where clenbuterol is known to accumulate.” And then you would get terribly ill.".

              http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/01/sp...ontador&st=cse

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              • chrisJS
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                #117
                Originally posted by GGG Gloveking
                The fact is, Canelo failed a drug test. Trying to argue that it came from tainted meat is what is called supposition. Also, trying to argue that he intentionally took clen is supposition.

                But the fact is, Canelo failed a drug test.
                Yeah but when you use actual facts they aren't facts it makes you a hater.

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                • GGG Gloveking
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by chrisJS
                  Yeah but when you use actual facts they aren't facts it makes you a hater.
                  I'm pretty sure I'll get a deflection, just like when I asked a simple yes or no question, and got an comparison between car accidents and mass shootings

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                  • NC Uppercut
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                    #119
                    Of course he is the Victim

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                    • BoxngLove
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                      #120
                      If it didn't stay in your system for ONE day. All 3 of these fighters have struggled with weight in fights. I'd have an easier time believing if that weren't the case.

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