Comments Thread For: Sergey Kovalev, Dmitry Bivol to Return in July at MSG

[MrShakeAndBake]

Duva named 4 options for Kovalev (Beterbiev, Jack, Stevenson, and Browne). All 4 are Haymon fighters. All 4 have no chance of happening. So we're probably looking at another Shabranskyy or Mikhalkin type fighter. Disappointing for Kovalev.

Blame Al Haymon

[daggum]

Blame Al Haymon

haymon has his own plans and they seem to include losing the worlds wealth ten times over.

[Eff Pandas]

What they need is social media teams to just go back and forth for a few months like Loma-Rigo and even Loma-Linares. That does way more than marinating the fight for 16 months which really just means 3 or 4 nights when they fight.

Yea agree 100% with that. I was honestly AMAZED at how well that Rigo twitter acct trolling did him. That was his best stretch with making things happening...unfortunately it happened when he was 36 or 37 & 2 divisions above his current weight.

But these promoters dont seem to understand ****.

I wouldn't say that. I think they just got this dated way of looking at things & doing things. They can usually make a fight bigger their way to some degree, but they could make fights bigger while doing so faster by using more up to date marketing that people actually use & listen to/read these days.

With that said, I wouldn't mind Bivol getting more experience so long as he commits to fighting Kovalev in the near future. Just like I wouldnt mind Tank getting more experience before Loma. The difference between those situations is Tank won't commit to ever facing Loma in his prime. They are full on ducking experience or not.

I think the difference there is Kov is 35 & on the downside of his career with who knows how many quality showings left & Bivol is a lil older himself & showed his capable by whitewashing Barrera.

While Tank is super young, 22 or 23 iirc, had lil to no open amateur experience + Loma is arguable the #1 guy P4P in the sport right now + was massively accomplished as an amateur.

I definitely understand Tank waiting & that being the +EV move there while the +EV move here is to get Kovalev big fights while he is still doing well, cuz sh^t can go south quick at his age, & to build up Bivol as the next guy for Main Events post-Kovalev potentially (win or lose ideally).

If Kovalev gets upset in one of these "building up Bivol co-featured events" Main Events are gonna feel like a$$holes. Strike while you can here cuz 35 year old guys retire & get beat all the time. If that happens they are left with some 3 year plan to make Bivol like a major player in the division like they had to do with Kovalev years ago. Meanwhile they could Bivol a bigger name just by fighting Kovalev in July or by the end of the year.

[Eff Pandas]

Duva was "intelligent" enough to make a deal with Stevenson's promoter that they both agreed to, then Stevenson/Haymon killed it. She was intelligent enough to make what Beterbiev's promoter called a "fair offer" to fight Kovalev but Haymon presumably is the one who killed it.

Please spare me the Stevenson vs Kovalev sh^t. There is so much fault in that bs to go around everyone should feel like an a$$hole. First & foremost HBO for not matching Showtime's deal. Showtime is matching HBO's deals to keep Joshua for two fights now. Cuz they wanna make Joshua vs Wilder. And you can bet they will make an offer to retain his services when Joshua is a US rights free agent after the Parker fight.

Remember when Quillin dropped the belt instead of facing Korobov?

So? Quillin is a space cadet. He supposedly saved his marriage by taking that time off from boxing. I'm sure thats all he cares about.

Remember how Alvarez dropped out of the eliminator vs Gvozdyk? Neither Korobov or Gvozdyk were or are working with Duva, so the only constant here is Al Haymon, and his boxers.

Again so? Fights don't get made between Duva & Haymon = Haymon is at fault? I actually mentioned the Stevenson vs Kovalev thing was EVERYONES fault at one time or another & the biggest ball drop there was HBO. And Peter had personal issues during his weird a$$ belt dropping situation. And idek wtf is up with this last situation cuz I barely remember it so can't even comment, but I'd tend to bet on it being Alvarez's fault more than Haymon. Haymon's made fights all over the place with all kinds of promoters. And Duva is the one who seems to be constantly sh^t talking him while sounding like a moron.

At least, no Haymon boxer has ever, ever done that, so all we can judge on is the facts, and the fact is none of his boxers have EVER done that.

I've talked about this over & over. The biggest problem with this Haymon thing is Haymon is a f#cking manager. And he, I theorize, had not done anything above or below board to skirt the Ali Act thus he's not in control of who fights who. He talks to his guys, he finds out who they wanna fight, he makes the fights. Thats what Haymon does. Its a manager job. He's not aiming mfers to this fight or that fight. Make of that what you will, but it ain't got sh^t to do with Haymon. Haymon is doing his job as I see it. Duva on the otherhand is a promoter who's supposed to be making big fights & yes sometimes she actually succeeds in doing that highly awkwardly & seemingly ham handed.

[Ajvar]

No mention about Gvozdyck

[Bronx2245]

Yea agree 100% with that. I was honestly AMAZED at how well that Rigo twitter acct trolling did him. That was his best stretch with making things happening...unfortunately it happened when he was 36 or 37 & 2 divisions above his current weight.



I wouldn't say that. I think they just got this dated way of looking at things & doing things. They can usually make a fight bigger their way to some degree, but they could make fights bigger while doing so faster by using more up to date marketing that people actually use & listen to/read these days.



I think the difference there is Kov is 35 & on the downside of his career with who knows how many quality showings left & Bivol is a lil older himself & showed his capable by whitewashing Barrera.

While Tank is super young, 22 or 23 iirc, had lil to no open amateur experience + Loma is arguable the #1 guy P4P in the sport right now + was massively accomplished as an amateur.

I definitely understand Tank waiting & that being the +EV move there while the +EV move here is to get Kovalev big fights while he is still doing well, cuz sh^t can go south quick at his age, & to build up Bivol as the next guy for Main Events post-Kovalev potentially (win or lose ideally).

If Kovalev gets upset in one of these "building up Bivol co-featured events" Main Events are gonna feel like a$$holes. Strike while you can here cuz 35 year old guys retire & get beat all the time. If that happens they are left with some 3 year plan to make Bivol like a major player in the division like they had to do with Kovalev years ago. Meanwhile they could Bivol a bigger name just by fighting Kovalev in July or by the end of the year.

I find it amazing how people are clamoring for "young" Tank to face P4P Lomachenko. Where was Lomachenko when he was 23? Who was he fighting @ 22/23? So if Tank doesn't face Loma, Floyd is "protecting" him, then what do we call what Loma's father did when he kept him in the amateurs?

[NEETzsche]

I can just about accept delaying unification for one more fight but if it doesn't happen this year I'll be pissed. Braehmer would be a good opponent for either of them if he's heading back to 175

[MrShakeAndBake]

I find it amazing how people are clamoring for "young" Tank to face P4P Lomachenko. Where was Lomachenko when he was 23? Who was he fighting @ 22/23? So if Tank doesn't face Loma, Floyd is "protecting" him, then what do we call what Loma's father did when he kept him in the amateurs?

Loma was building his amateur career at 23. Almost 400 fight with one loss which he avenged twice.
But i agree with young lil baby tank b1tch should stay away from loma and suck on it!!!!!!

[bluebeam]

more hot air from duva.

Stevenson vs jack is set for may so neither guy would be ready for a July fight so that eliminates 2 of the 4 names she mentioned.

be prepared for another hbo card with kovalev vs a nobody

[trueblood]

LOOK... Steavenson is a joke...Al Haymon the NEW Don King..

Look this needs to happen...BETEBev Bivol & def Kovelev

Deserve to get this belt from this A Hole who held it for ???

How many years...They should have stripped him.

How does Jack rate a shot??? Before any of these guys...

I hate the bullshi
Politics of Dirty boxing backrooms..

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