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Boxing Fundamentals....Are They A Must?

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  • #21
    Some guys are athletic enough and can rely on their speed/power to get them through. It's sloppy but it works.

    For a fighter to have sound fundamentals though is a great thing, though. They generally do better over all, but there are always exceptions of course.

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    • #22
      he was literally saved by the bell against a 50 year old

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      • #23
        Originally posted by sunny31 View Post
        Great boxing fundamentals are still no1 and always will be.
        Sure on average boxing fundamentals will win, BUT nothing is 100% & the margin of error between on average + nothing being 100% could result in Wilder, as insane as it sounds, retire at 51-0 & have Rocky rolling in his grave & Floyd trying to fight one of those Kardashian girls after a female to male reassignment surgery. I wouldn't bet on it, but things are a lot less stable in boxing then people wanna admit in particular at the heavier weights & when a guy has power.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by *TonyMontana* View Post
          The term boxing fundamental is often used
          Most fans and trainers alike view this as a must in a fighters boxing knowledge

          Yet Deontay Wilder???
          Explain him

          He is proving over and over you can be on top in this sport with a severe lack of boxing fundamentals

          He has boxing purists going mental

          What is your view on this?

          Discuss.....
          He came unstuck last night but it wasn't a bad run.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by *TonyMontana* View Post
            The term boxing fundamental is often used
            Most fans and trainers alike view this as a must in a fighters boxing knowledge

            Yet Deontay Wilder???
            Explain him

            He is proving over and over you can be on top in this sport with a severe lack of boxing fundamentals

            He has boxing purists going mental

            What is your view on this?

            Discuss.....
            Yes it is a must.

            An outlier means nothing. One or two guys can get away with poor habits and unnecessary risks and compete at an elite level, with heart and other intangibles, and something great they can do in the ring. Doesn't mean fundamentals hold any less value. Step in the ring if you want to argue otherwise, meet any reasonably experienced boxer and let me know how many of them you handle before you get embarrassed. I'll sign up, I'll meet anyone in the bay area in a gym. I might lose, but I promise you'll walk away understanding that when I speak about this sports intricacies and concepts, it's not just from a spectator perspective, I can do everything I preach in person.

            Last night Wilder was exposed in many ways but hes been exposed before, he just got away with it. Careful matchmaking goes a long way. It's also unfair because if you come with hype you will have people trying to make your career something around you, if you turn pro as a nobody, people want to reduce you to a club fighter at best unless you prove otherwise.

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            • #26
              Not so much fundamentals, I mean, you don’t have to keep your hands up if you don’t want, but at least roll your shoulder, move your head or use your legs properly. Wilder seriously doesn’t know how to fight. His footwork is his worst enemy, as it’s non-existent.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
                Not unless you are heavyweight, because in that division all it takes is just one punch and the fight is over. You must be able to fight the perfect fundamentally sound fight against a strong puncher in the Heavyweight division to be victorious.

                Ortiz was fighting a very disciplined fight by simply out boxing Deontay Wilder with controlling the distance, beating him to the jab and punch. His greatest mistake was getting into a firefight with Deontay Wilder, through the exchanges.

                He should never started trading punches with Deontay Wilder; Which was the beginning of his downfall. Had he continued to work behind the jab and walking Wilder down we could have had ourselves an upset victory; Because at least on my unofficial scorecard I had him leading on points up until the KO.
                Ricardo Mayorga had no fundamentals. He was lineal welterweight champion.

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