How would James Toney fair in today's HW division?

[EdWins]

James toney one of my all time favs I don't know how he'd do in todays heavyweight era tho the game is constantly changing to tough to call

[Just looking]

Holyfield was taking bombs from guys that don't posses the power of a Wilder, AJ, or an Ortiz. He was a small 208lb HW at the end of the day that once struggled with a 5'5 cruiser in Qawi. What about Qawi, how do you think a 5'5 Qawi would deal with a 6'4 Gassiev?

Old Foreman could barely beat journeymen like Stewart, later losing to a glass chinned Morrison. Even in his prime he was getting dropped by Lyle, losing to Young.

Maybe this HW division isn't as great as people remember it to be when guys like Douglas were knocking out Tyson, Tyson going the distance with part time boxers, Holyfield was getting into a slug fest with a 45 year old obese man, Lewis was getting sparked out by Rahman etc. or Toney was drawing with Rahman and Peter. You shouldn't over think it, it is what it looks like, a weak division compared to what it is now.

That's something I've been thinking about. The HW of other eras were said as having better fighters because the guys were losing. For example, Frazier was great because he beat Ali and Ali was great because he beat Frazier and Foreman, who himself beat Frazier. Even worse was the 90's, everybody beating and getting beat by everybody. It's like you have to lose to be great

[Just looking]

Toney was too small for today. He would outclass everyone, but don't matters if he can't reach them. Foreman would have a puncher's chance, but with Wilder and Fury in their backfoots I don't see them getting caught. Joshua and Parker like to press much more and I can see them getting caught

[Rockin']

James could easily **** up Deontay Wilder. The Heavyweights of today are pure sheit...........Rockin'

[satiev1]

]He couldn't even KO little 208lb Holyfield[/B], not even Usyk or Gassiev come that light on fight night and they're actually cruisers.

Yah pffff. who the **** is holyfield. Only one of the greatest hw's of all time. Foreman has no power.

[satiev1]

The world population is literally around double what it is in the 1970's, it was 3.7 billion in 1975, and around 8 billion today. Being the best out of 3 billion people in 1960 isn't the same as being the best out of 8 billion people in 2018. You can't compare guys like Marciano, Louis, to today's era.

Wilder is 6'7 with a massive reach and lean muscle, and lost weight due to an illness, he's normally around 220. He's also the hardest puncher of all time.

Absolute bull****. He's facing complete tomato cans. Up until ortiz, his best win was stiverne who's trash.

[siablo14]

Who cares

Dude was only in it for the burger kings

Don't diss the legend, blood.

[Cutthroat]

Yah pffff. who the **** is holyfield. Only one of the greatest hw's of all time. Foreman has no power.

Holyfield was great in his era, this is an entirely different era concentrated with Super heavies. 208lbs would even be undersized compared to what Gassiev comes in the ring at cruiser.

Holyfield's defense was terrible, how the hell do you get into a war with a 45 year old obese man? Why don't we hear about how bad his defense is when people lambaste Wilder for getting hit vs significantly better competition?

Foreman's defense was terrible as well, that defense he uses of blocking punches with his forehead would get him KTFO. A super heavy like Wilder would easily punch through any of their guards.

[satiev1]

Holyfield was great in his era, this is an entirely different era concentrated with Super heavies. 208lbs would even be undersized compared to what Gassiev comes in the ring at cruiser.

Holyfield's defense was terrible, how the hell do you get into a war with a 45 year old obese man? Why don't we hear about how bad his defense is when people lambaste Wilder for getting hit vs significantly better competition?

Foreman's defense was terrible as well, that defense he uses of blocking punches with his forehead would get him KTFO. A super heavy like Wilder would easily punch through any of their guards.

LMAO. That was a past prime evander. He was 40 years old and done. Prime holyfield would clean out the whole hw division easily. Do you follow boxing or just occasionally troll on forums?

Prime foreman has wins over all time great hw's while wilder goes rds with the likes of ortiz who's 7 years his senior. A 40 year old cuban amateur has been. He does have good defense and deep amateur pedigree. Wilder's 2nd best opponent is stiverne a guy who didn't throw a single shot when wilder dropped his hands for 10 seconds. You think wilder would beat a prime foreman? Holy ****. I'm done here.

[Cutthroat]

LMAO. That was a past prime evander. He was 40 years old and done. Prime holyfield would clean out the whole hw division easily. Do you follow boxing or just occasionally troll on forums?

Prime foreman has wins over all time great hw's while wilder goes rds with the likes of ortiz who's 7 years his senior. A 40 year old cuban amateur has been. He does have good defense and deep amateur pedigree. Wilder's 2nd best opponent is stiverne a guy who didn't throw a single shot when wilder dropped his hands for 10 seconds. You think wilder would beat a prime foreman? Holy ****. I'm done here.

Holyfield got into a war with a 42 year old Foreman when he was barely 5 years pro, that is not past prime Evander. Early in his career he struggled with 5'5 Qawi, then an obese old Foreman, and then lost to John Ruiz in '01 but you think he can clean out this era's super heavies smdh. Like I said, Holyfield had a terrible defense and gets praised for it. Same with Foreman, you cannot take punches on your forehead in this era and be successful, you'll get your head knocked off.

Even Ali got dropped by a blown up LHW in Henry Cooper, by today's standards that gets you laughed out the sport. This ain't the 00's era where guys like James Toney were capable of beating top 3 contenders, this is an era where you have numerous 6'4+ 240lb guys with legit knock out power filling the rankings.