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  • The Big Dunn
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    #111
    Originally posted by chrisJS
    I'm seeing more people say "Ok, he's juiced but the fight still should go on".

    Anyone who's stance is different in either case is a hypocrite. I do hope this fight still goes on but don't believe it should because A) he cheated and B) he sets a poor example.
    I'm seeing both, just like others. I think the fight will go on as well because of the money it will generate.

    Originally posted by MASTER OF you
    where are you seeing this? everything I've seen has people saying they want the fight to go on.
    check the threads. Dramshow started one.

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    • Raggamuffin
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      #112
      Originally posted by chrisJS
      The investigation would only have one outcome no matter what the real results are. Do you really think any organization wants to upset Canelo given that they would get 3% of every purse? They won't stand in the way of this fight.

      Why not point out the hypocrisy in the posters who trashed Povetkin but are siding with Canelo? There's a ton of that here too and perhaps that's worse because they had to hear all about it then and now the tables have turned whereas the folks backing Canelo were 100% without a doubt that Povetkin was a cheating scumbag.

      Both are cheats.
      We still don’t know if he ate contaminated meat or not though I think that he took an injection, but I’m patient. I can wait until the investigation is over. I did the same with Headvetkin.

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      • Raggamuffin
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        #113
        Originally posted by MrShakeAndBake
        Whats there to investigate? they going to poke at his crap for evidence? The guy got caught using PEDs - Maybe Povetkin ate tainted meat as well , hypocrites!!!!!!
        Yeah but why did Headvetkin eat tainted meat after passing failing and then passing testing? Lmao.

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        • MrShakeAndBake
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          #114
          Originally posted by Raggamuffin
          Yeah but why did Headvetkin eat tainted meat after passing failing and then passing testing? Lmao.
          Because he had no luxury to hide his eating habits like Pednelo has... The guy literraly fight only on mexican holidays , he has been cheating for a while and cycleing off the peds right before actual preparation and test phases

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            #115
            Originally posted by MrShakeAndBake
            Because he had no luxury to hide his eating habits like Pednelo has... The guy literraly fight only on mexican holidays , he has been cheating for a while and cycleing off the peds right before actual preparation and test phases
            You're saying a lot with zero proof.

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            • bigdunny1
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              #116
              of course they are backing the experts and not the idiots on a message board who just googled chernobyl for the first time today. WADA who did the testing stated that his levels were extremely low consistent with someone who ate tainted meat. Victor Conte drug and testing expert also agreed the levels are consistent with tainted meat. Mexico has a major problem with their meat. The GGG camp doesn't want the fight called off and has not complained one bit about this. And there is already precedent with lesser fighters in boxing having this same trace in their system consistent with tainted meat in Mexico and the fights were not called off Erik Morales vs Danny Garcia and Fernando Vargas vs Orlando Salido. There is also precedent outside of boxing in other sports where the athlete was not punished such as the NFL where a player after a 1 week vacation to mexico tested positive and despite NFL's strict drug suspension policy he didn't receive a suspension.

              WADA, VADA, Conte have no reason to lie and protect Canelo and all saying everything found is consistent with tainted meat and the NFL after this same problem sent a memo to everyone of their players telling them Mexico has a problem and do not eat any of their meat. But folks forgetting that GGG is complicit in all this he doesn't wanted Canelo suspended or the fight to be called off/delayed.

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              • Goyotronico
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                #117
                Originally posted by Raggamuffin
                We still don’t know if he ate contaminated meat or not though I think that he took an injection, but I’m patient. I can wait until the investigation is over. I did the same with Headvetkin.
                just a quick investigation from someone for people who has doubts.

                0.6 - 0.8 nanograms?

                I googled and found some bodybuilder`s forum where dosage of clenbuterol is discussed. Here`s the excerpt:

                "The****utic dose (20, 40 and 80 micrograms/man) of clenbuterol hydrochloride, a beta 2-adrenergic stimulant, was orally administered to healthy volunteers, and the unmetabolized drug in plasma and urine was determined by enzyme immunoassay. The plasma levels of clenbuterol reached the maximum value of 0.1, 0.2 and 0.35 ng/ml, respectively, in a dose-dependent manner within 2.5 h, which lasted for over 6 h after the administration. The half-life of clenbuterol in plasma was estimated to be about 35 h. When the drug was orally administered repeatedly to men twice a day, the plasma level reached the plateau within 4 d after the initial administration. At that time, the plasma levels of the unchanged form were 0.2 to 0.3 ng/ml and 0.5 to 0.6 ng/ml at doses of 20 and 40 micrograms/man, respectively. The bound ratio of the drug to plasma protein was estimated to be 89-98% at a single administration of 80 micrograms of the drug. The cumulative urinary excretion of unchanged compound corresponded to about 20% of the administered dose as measured at 72 h following a single oral administration. "

                Seems like 0.6-0.8 ng/ml is quite a lot and consistent not with eating some meat, but with administering clenbuterol pills directly for a period of time.




                what if it was GGG that tested positive? what would Canelo and DLH say or do? GGG was recently in Mexico, so there is a possibility that he also tested positive, but that didn't happen, the golden geese is being covered and we all know the truth, make people wander how the hell he could do Canelo weight and normally walking over 180lb.

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                • daggum
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                  #118
                  if you live in mexico its ok to cheat is what they are saying. they are also saying we love money

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                  • CLUBBER!
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                    #119
                    CHEATNELO! All the recent greats from Mexico are PED users.

                    Originally posted by Goyotronico
                    just a quick investigation from someone for people who has doubts.

                    0.6 - 0.8 nanograms?

                    I googled and found some bodybuilder`s forum where dosage of clenbuterol is discussed. Here`s the excerpt:

                    "The****utic dose (20, 40 and 80 micrograms/man) of clenbuterol hydrochloride, a beta 2-adrenergic stimulant, was orally administered to healthy volunteers, and the unmetabolized drug in plasma and urine was determined by enzyme immunoassay. The plasma levels of clenbuterol reached the maximum value of 0.1, 0.2 and 0.35 ng/ml, respectively, in a dose-dependent manner within 2.5 h, which lasted for over 6 h after the administration. The half-life of clenbuterol in plasma was estimated to be about 35 h. When the drug was orally administered repeatedly to men twice a day, the plasma level reached the plateau within 4 d after the initial administration. At that time, the plasma levels of the unchanged form were 0.2 to 0.3 ng/ml and 0.5 to 0.6 ng/ml at doses of 20 and 40 micrograms/man, respectively. The bound ratio of the drug to plasma protein was estimated to be 89-98% at a single administration of 80 micrograms of the drug. The cumulative urinary excretion of unchanged compound corresponded to about 20% of the administered dose as measured at 72 h following a single oral administration. "

                    Seems like 0.6-0.8 ng/ml is quite a lot and consistent not with eating some meat, but with administering clenbuterol pills directly for a period of time.




                    what if it was GGG that tested positive? what would Canelo and DLH say or do? GGG was recently in Mexico, so there is a possibility that he also tested positive, but that didn't happen, the golden geese is being covered and we all know the truth, make people wander how the hell he could do Canelo weight and normally walking over 180lb.

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                    • CLUBBER!
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                      #120
                      Even by cheating Canelo still loses. Must be a ********.

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