Why are people sure that Canelo cheated?

[Sancho Puncho]

Info copy-pasted from some bodybuilder`s forum.

"The****utic dose (20, 40 and 80 micrograms/man) of clenbuterol hydrochloride, a beta 2-adrenergic stimulant, was orally administered to healthy volunteers, and the unmetabolized drug in plasma and urine was determined by enzyme immunoassay. The plasma levels of clenbuterol reached the maximum value of 0.1, 0.2 and 0.35 ng/ml, respectively, in a dose-dependent manner within 2.5 h, which lasted for over 6 h after the administration. The half-life of clenbuterol in plasma was estimated to be about 35 h. When the drug was orally administered repeatedly to men twice a day, the plasma level reached the plateau within 4 d after the initial administration. At that time, the plasma levels of the unchanged form were 0.2 to 0.3 ng/ml and 0.5 to 0.6 ng/ml at doses of 20 and 40 micrograms/man, respectively. The bound ratio of the drug to plasma protein was estimated to be 89-98% at a single administration of 80 micrograms of the drug. The cumulative urinary excretion of unchanged compound corresponded to about 20% of the administered dose as measured at 72 h following a single oral administration. "

Sure doesn`t seem like 0.6-0.8 ng/ml found in Canelo`s tests could be described as "tiny, negligible amount".

[Cheek busting]

I'm not necessarily saying that he didn't, but when you consider that literally half of the meat in Mexico is somewhat tainted it's not surprising that this happened.

Being a rich athlete doesn't mean he wouldn't have himself some street tacos walking his way home, or go to a small restaurant on Friday nights with his family....

A tiny negligible amount was found in Canelo, this is different from the Russian PED situation where huge noticeable amounts were found in athletes, where they must have knowingly doped.

I really think this is just an accident. And honestly, this shouldn't affect the fight at all.

Actually, it's not different at all from Povetkin situation.

Povetkin had TRACE amounts of Meldonium. very small amounts. AND the drug was legal for all of 2016, which would give him even more grounds to justify why it was in his system.


Anyway, I don't "know for a fact" Canelo intentionally took Clen. to get a competitive advantage. I just think it's the most logical situation.


All because a lot of meat is contaminated, doesn't mean it can easily cause it to show up in your metabolites on a drug test. We need more research into this. or more information released about the exact ng/mL of Clen. found in Canelo, and how much meat it would take for this amount of Clen. to be found in your system.

But right now, until further information comes out, I think the most logical situation is, with tens of millions at stake, is Canelo wanted to get a competitive advantage.

[speed2kill]

It's the principle of Occam's Razor. The simplest explanation is usually the right one. In this case, Canelo took a PED and got popped.

[Hype job]

Because you don't test positive based on tainted meat. It's a lie that was created so athletes and pro boxers can claim innocence. The clen would not survive in the meat at cooking temperature.

[satiev1]

I'm not necessarily saying that he didn't, but when you consider that literally half of the meat in Mexico is somewhat tainted it's not surprising that this happened.

Being a rich athlete doesn't mean he wouldn't have himself some street tacos walking his way home, or go to a small restaurant on Friday nights with his family....

A tiny negligible amount was found in Canelo, this is different from the Russian PED situation where huge noticeable amounts were found in athletes, where they must have knowingly doped.

I really think this is just an accident. And honestly, this shouldn't affect the fight at all.

You need to understand that it dosen't matter if it was intentional or not. This is the point that fan boys are missing. Clen was found in his system so whether he cheated intentionally or not he still cheated.

[satiev1]

Actually, it's not different at all from Povetkin situation.

Povetkin had TRACE amounts of Meldonium. very small amounts. AND the drug was legal for all of 2016, which would give him even more grounds to justify why it was in his system.


Anyway, I don't "know for a fact" Canelo intentionally took Clen. to get a competitive advantage. I just think it's the most logical situation.


All because a lot of meat is contaminated, doesn't mean it can easily cause it to show up in your metabolites on a drug test. We need more research into this. or more information released about the exact ng/mL of Clen. found in Canelo, and how much meat it would take for this amount of Clen. to be found in your system.

But right now, until further information comes out, I think the most logical situation is, with tens of millions at stake, is Canelo wanted to get a competitive advantage.

If it was un intentional he still cheated regardless.

[Cheek busting]

If it was un intentional he still cheated regardless.

When I think of cheating, just like stealing, there has to be an element of intent.

I find it highly unlikely that he did not knowingly take Clen. doe..

[Cheek busting]

You need to understand that it dosen't matter if it was intentional or not. This is the point that fan boys are missing. Clen was found in his system so whether he cheated intentionally or not he still cheated.

That's redundant. Cheating is inherently intentional. No such thing as "unintentional cheating."

I see what you're saying, doe.. That regardless if he intentionally took it or not, he had a chemical in his system that was greatly aiding in his training,and would greatly aid him in a 12-round fight.

But it wouldn't be cheating unless he actually had the intent to take this substance.

[satiev1]

That's redundant. Cheating is inherently intentional. No such thing as "unintentional cheating."

I see what you're saying, doe.. That regardless if he intentionally took it or not, he had a chemical in his system that was greatly aiding in his training,and would greatly aid him in a 12-round fight.

But it wouldn't be cheating unless he actually had the intent to take this substance.

FALSE. It's still cheating. The same way margarito cheated against cotto but claimed he didn't know he had plasters. You don't need intent to cheat. Like you said "he had a chemical in his system that was greatly aiding in his training,and would greatly aid him in a 12-round fight."

If your trainer put pills in your drink and you got tested positive you still cheated. It's possible to cheat regardless intentional or not. The outcome is the same.

[Mexican_Puppet]

I'm not necessarily saying that he didn't, but when you consider that literally half of the meat in Mexico is somewhat tainted it's not surprising that this happened.

Being a rich athlete doesn't mean he wouldn't have himself some street tacos walking his way home, or go to a small restaurant on Friday nights with his family....

A tiny negligible amount was found in Canelo, this is different from the Russian PED situation where huge noticeable amounts were found in athletes, where they must have knowingly doped.

I really think this is just an accident. And honestly, this shouldn't affect the fight at all.

Because most of the fans are anti-mexican boxing.

Afroamerican boxers and mexican boxers are the most HATED in all the boxing world.