Ortiz > Old Wlad > Pedvetkin let's get it straight.

[Sheldon312]

are you sure about that?


Wlad and southpaw journeyman

Wilder has been knocked out in the amateurs and knocked down in the pros. What is your point?

[HeadShots]

Poor troll job. Ortiz has done nothing and just lost to one of the least skilled title holders in HW history.

everything i stated is fact. try a logical rebuttal some time.

you lost.

[HeadShots]

Wilder has been knocked out in the amateurs and knocked down in the pros. What is your point?

there's a difference between KD and KO.


that is the difference between a W and an L


L. that's something Deontay knows nothing about in the pro ranks.






he just cannot see the left hand.


Ortiz > Wlad

[Robbie Barrett]

everything i stated is fact. try a logical rebuttal some time.

you lost.

You don't even know what a fact is the nonsense you're talking is your opinion.

Fact is achievements and resume point to Klitschko being a far far greater fighter.

[HeadShots]

You don't even know what a fact is the nonsense you're talking is your opinion.

Fact is achievements and resume point to Klitschko being a far far greater fighter.

idiots like you buy into hype trains. Wlad achieved far more than Joshua or Sanders, but still got stopped when they faced off didn't he?


just LMAO. choose another sport. you don't know what you're watching.

[_original_]

are you sure about that?


Wlad and southpaw journeyman

Bam! These clowns here don't like facts.

[hhs661]

are you sure about that?


Wlad and southpaw journeyman

I believe he lost that fight because he was doing superb acting on Ocean's 11 around that time with Lennox Lewis.

[HeadShots]

I believe he lost that fight because he was doing superb acting on Ocean's 11 around that time with Lennox Lewis.

why didn't he rematch Sanders?

[satiev1]

Disagree on this one. Ortiz wouldn't have beaten Wlad. Wlad loves that style. Typical amateur cuban style from the outside would play into his hands. Ortiz would get jabbed to death by Wlad and stopped.

[hhs661]

why didn't he rematch Sanders?

Wlad had Hollywood problems