Comments Thread For: Sergey Kovalev: I Want Badou Jack if He Beats Adonis Stevenson

[GFunk23]

I agree, I am sick of him and Adonis.

I actually feel bad for that fool they put in with Kov. As the HBO commentators were joking, he got beat up like a movie boxer. The damage on his face reminded me of Raging Bull where LaMotta beats down Tony Janiro.

[TheThirdEye]

He tried to fight Kovalev by ducking out on a verbal agreement and running to Showtime? Then fighting bottom barrel opponents for 4 years while Kovalev fought Hopkins, Pascal twice, and Ward twice? Pimp is not a man. He used to coerce children into sexual slavery. Now he runs from ring justice. After 4 years he's finally found the balls to fight a live body. Praise Jesus.

• Tue Feb 18, 2014 Adonis Stevenson signed with powerful adviser Al Haymon. Stevenson signed the papers in Calabasas California with Sam Watson.
• Tue Mar 25, 2014 Adonis Stevenson got "a better offer" from Showtime than HBO, which opted not to renegotiate its deal with Stevenson.
• Wed Mar 26, 2014 Sergey Kovalev signed a 1 year agreement with HBO. The papers were presented by director of programming Peter Nelson.

Kathy Duva created a phony lawsuit against Yvon Michel, Adonis Stevenson, Al Haymon, Delahoya, Hopkins, Schaefer, GYM promotion, Golden Boy promotion and Showtime. This lawsuit had no pillar, HBO couldn't support it, because first and foremost HBO failed to set an agreement in place for Kovalev and Stevenson to meet on HBO when both non-sign fighters were fighting under HBO card in 2013. HBO failed to lock up the fighters when it had the opportunity. Peter Nelson plan was to sign under contract the winner between Kovalev and Stevenson.
Not to mention that Kovalev agreed to sign a one year contract under HBO one day after Stevenson signed his agreement with Showtime.
Understand! Kovalev wasn't sign under HBO yet, when Stevenson signed with Showtime.

Why do you think Kathy dropped that phony lawsuit?

[Airborne]

With Ward gone the Crusher left to terrorize the rest of division. Only if Sanders can move up no one to give him fight.

[TheThirdEye]

They ask plenty of boxers that, and I agree I dont like usually like it, but Bivol with 13 fights being an unknown in the US is a unique circumstance. But Im pretty sure Max asked Andre Ward about that or at least said during commentary that he might prefer if Ward actually had 4 tuneup fights, instead of just 3, to get really polished for Kovalev, and that it was somehow Ward's right to make the fight "whenever the perfect time for him is" or something, with no regard for Kovalev.

You might also recall the HBO commentators started the Kovalev-Mikhalkin portion of the broadcast completely ****ting on Kovalev and saying that he and his team were basically lying about offering the fight to better fighters than Mikhalkin and that this was really all about building Kovalev back up, completely ignoring the FACT that Barrera was offered the Kovalev fight but declined, alone with many others (Marcus Browne apparently, and so on).

When has HBO ever done that with one of their teacher's pets like Canelo or Ward is a better question?

Little lies doesn't create truth.
Copy/Paste: In the post fight interview, Kovalev says to Kellerman, that he wasn't ready to face a southpaw, but he would agree to fight guys like Badou Jack. Kellerman had to ask him the same question 3 times, only to get a; "YES! I'm ready for anybody if the money is right"...
What does that mean?
1) I'll fight anybody
2) But no southpaws
3) And if it's for the WBC belt, I'll agree to meet Badou

Kovalev clearly eliminate 2 southpaws from the mix:
Marcus Browne & Adonis Stevenson.

So when you said: (Marcus Browne apparently declined Kovalev's offer, and so on).
Where can we find those facts? At one point of their career, Beterbiev and Barrera apparently declined an offer from Kovalev. But I never heard Browne or any of the top LHW doing so. On the contrary, Kovalev admitted he wouldn't be ready to fight a southpaw.
Why do you lie for?
Again! Not to mention, Kovalev signed his first HBO contract AFTER Stevenson signed his first agreement with Showtime.
Which means, between Kovalev and Stevenson, Kovalev was the only one ducking.

[Muz]

You mean like how HBO is pushing Andrade and Jacobs to fight next? Oh wait Jacobs is fighting a guy with as few KOs as Mikhalkin instead.

But to answer your question, because Bivol has barely fought on HBO before. They know he's an unknown so HBO knows they cant maximize their ratings and however else they make money off these boxing cards if they make the fight next. Just like the promoters know. I expect the fight to happen way sooner than it would in the PBC universe with a guy with 13 fights, I expect it to happen late 2018 or early 2019, before Spence-Thurman even though both of them were on our radar long before Bivol was (just to give you proof of what I just said), but I dont think it will be next. The two promoters, HBO, even MSG, I think they all want to get paid off from a fight with that much talent in it and I think they dont believe they will be if the fight happens next.

I mean, in a universe where Kovalev got the decision over Ward, this matchup could be looked at as a matchup between the #1 P4P boxer in the world, and one of the next young contenders for that spot in the future. Obviously we'd be ignoring Lomachenko and so on but you still get the picture. On talent Kovalev-Bivol is one of the top 5 matchups of the last 5 years, but if they make it next, most people wont even know it's on TV, just like some NSB posters didnt even know Bivol-Barrera was last night.

Hopefully Kovalev-Beterbiev or Stevenson is next, and then Bivol can fight the winner.

Perfect logic.

Funny how no young USA fighters fight each other yet their fans expect Easter European fighter to always pick up the slack when USA fighters continue ducking and cherry picking. It's pretty hypocritical . The tmt PBC casuals LDBC.

[TheThirdEye]

Perfect logic.

Funny how no young USA fighters fight each other yet their fans expect Easter European fighter to always pick up the slack when USA fighters continue ducking and cherry picking. It's pretty hypocritical . The tmt PBC casuals LDBC.

TROLLS

[Muz]

Little lies doesn't create truth.
Copy/Paste: In the post fight interview, Kovalev says to Kellerman, that he wasn't ready to face a southpaw, but he would agree to fight guys like Badou Jack. Kellerman had to ask him the same question 3 times, only to get a; "YES! I'm ready for anybody if the money is right"...
What does that mean?
1) I'll fight anybody
2) But no southpaws
3) And if it's for the WBC belt, I'll agree to meet Badou

Kovalev clearly eliminate 2 southpaws from the mix:
Marcus Browne & Adonis Stevenson.

So when you said: (Marcus Browne apparently declined Kovalev's offer, and so on).
Where can we find those facts? At one point of their career, Beterbiev and Barrera apparently declined an offer from Kovalev. But I never heard Browne or any of the top LHW doing so. On the contrary, Kovalev admitted he wouldn't be ready to fight a southpaw.
Why do you lie for?
Again! Not to mention, Kovalev signed his first HBO contract AFTER Stevenson signed his first agreement with Showtime.
Which means, between Kovalev and Stevenson, Kovalev was the only one ducking.

Marcus Browne ducked Gvodzyk as the WBC ordered a title eliminator between them but Browne said no thanks.....

Browne was also offered a fight with Kovalev and declined.

Jack gave up his wba strap to avoid Bivol.

Ward retired to avoid hos ibf Mando with Beterbiev.

Stevenson hasn't fought a mandatory since 2013. Ducked Kovalev and everyone with a pulse fighting just bums....


Every one of your fighters are cowards today. They ate on paper ducking title fights or eliminators just to avoid the Eastern European fighters dominating boxing. I'd be embarrassed not only as a man but as a people for supporting cowardice.

[Muz]

Facts don't lie. You can scour boxingscene and the wbc to see reported fact of how Marcus Browne refused to fight Gvodzyk for the wbc eliminator who fights winner of Stevenson Jack.

To compound it more, Alvarez refused to fight Gvodzyk prompting the wbc to ask the next highest rated guy Brown

The PBC house of cards is crumbling. The Ponzi scheme of manipulating the wbc seems to be over after five years of blocked Mandos and ducked fights to keep Stevenson as a belt holder. Whatever Haymon plan for him sure Backfired. Stevenson laughing stock of boxing.

[Muz]

Marcus Browne still has Kalaj*** problem.....What a farce that robbery was.

[tokon]

And if Stevenson wins?

Exactly!

Kovalev acknowledged himself he didn't do well against a southpaw.

He definitely won't want one that can **** as well!