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  • STC
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    #61
    Originally posted by Souza2012
    Stop bichin bout th weight issue. Pauli knew Cotto was gonna be heavier as did everyone. That was pretty much what this fight was about, Cotto the bigger stronger guy vs Paulie the fast slick boxer. Paulie knew Cotto was bigger and stronger and was suppose to get and school the "******" and "slow" Cotto as his trainer put it. Problem is Cotto was much better than Paulie thought and was able to get his hands on Paulie easier than expected. Another thing i want to talk about is that cut. Man i have watched that fight lik 10 times now and never seen a clash of heads, i hav rewinded it and played it many times too i never seen a headbut. I think Cotto cut him with that right hand he landed right when the fight started. Either way Cotto won the fight and that is that.

    Yea and the author of this thread is a joke hahahaha. what a ***in groupie!
    Cotto cut him with a head butt within the first 15 seconds, not a right hand...

    and by having cotto the bigger buy, vs paulie the slick guy and giving cotto the advantage of having more time to bulk up AND by making the ring smaller taking away paulies game plan was BS if you ask me and dibella should have done something about it

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    • 2OSouzaSuarez12
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      #62
      Originally posted by STC
      Cotto cut him with a head butt within the first 15 seconds, not a right hand...

      and by having cotto the bigger buy, vs paulie the slick guy and giving cotto the advantage of having more time to bulk up AND by making the ring smaller taking away paulies game plan was BS if you ask me and dibella should have done something about it
      watch the 1st round again and you will se that thre is no headbutt but id expect this coming from a guy with italians all over his ****.

      Hey by the way did you hear? PAULIE MALIGNAGGI GOT HIS ASS KICKED AND RECIEVED HIS FIRST LOSS TO THE BIGGER STRONGR COTTO!

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      • machotime
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        #63
        Originally posted by fluent2332
        if you dont think the ring size is a huge mismatch in favor of Cotto you are kidding yourself. a small ring can absolutely make the difference in a fight that has a speed boxer who relies on all that space matched up against a power puncher who wants to corner you. a power puncher will have no trouble finding the speed guy in a tiny ring. the weight def. makes a huge difference too, the fact that Cotto looked weak at the weigh-in and huge the day of the fight, thats just not fair, considering Paulie is already the naturally smaller guy, theres no way Paulie was going to pack on pounds like Cotto who is naturally that size. 10 lbs is the difference between a left hook that scores or a left hook that puts your ass on the canvas. it may seem like little things but they can make the difference. i mean, 5 lbs has been considered huge in fights, Castillo-corrales II comes to mind

        i'm not trying to make excuses for Paulie and say he would have won without those things, but you can't deny that the cards were completely stacked against him. it will make for a very interesting rematch IMO
        This is funny bc Tito had to deal with a huge ring against DLH. Both of them were champions but DLH, the favorite(DLH) was given the advantage.

        The weigh-in: Both Cotto and Paulie weighed-in at 138 1/4, that is 1.75 lbs. under, if Cotto was having such issues with weight dont you think he would have weighed in at 140???

        The weigh in issues were within the rules, therefore it was not wrong or f**ked up, next thing, why would the champion's promoter choose a huge ring when his boxer's style does not benefit from it?

        As Paulie stated, "Cotto is the champion, I have no say bc I am nobody"

        The ring looked standard to me, but hey even if the ring was bigger, there is no way Paulie would have won, he was outclassed by the Champion and would be in a bigger ring....Period.

        If you judge the fight the way you are supposed to, Effective aggressiveness, effective punching, and ring generalship, I don't see how one can say that the fight was a anything less than 116-111. Paulie had some flurries, but when he was done with those flurries he was countered. So are you impressed by 4 grazing punches, or 2 hard counters?

        And for the guy that said that he had Palie winning based on the amatuer way of thinking, you my freind, will one day realize that amatuer boxing is not the same game as professional boxing.

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        • STC
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          #64
          Originally posted by machotime
          The ring looked standard to me, but hey even if the ring was bigger, there is no way Paulie would have won, he was outclassed by the Champion and would be in a bigger ring....Period.
          You have no idea what would happen man. I'm not saying Paulie would win definately, but it wouldn't be the same fight. Not taking anything away from Cotto either, hes a great fighter and he won.

          but paulies whole fight plan was to box cotto and he couldnt do that...from the start of the fight paulie had to stand toe to toe with him and throw and obviously, miguel is going to win that fight 10 times outta 10

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            #65
            Enough said!

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              #66
              It sounds to me that when you guys say he needed a bigger ring to box, it sounds more like he needed a bigger ring to run. Was that his plan throw a few combos and run a round the ring. if thats the case then I am glad they choose a standard sized ring. If not, Paulie would've been running for twelve rounds making it a snooze fest. Hey he did enough clinching which is just as bad as running, my bad boxing

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                #67
                Originally posted by Elbichogrande
                It sounds to me that when you guys say he needed a bigger ring to box, it sounds more like he needed a bigger ring to run. Was that his plan throw a few combos and run a round the ring. if thats the case then I am glad they choose a standard sized ring. If not, Paulie would've been running for twelve rounds making it a snooze fest. Hey he did enough clinching which is just as bad as running, my bad boxing
                im not even gonna waste my time with your nonsense

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                • machotime
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by STC
                  You have no idea what would happen man. I'm not saying Paulie would win definately, but it wouldn't be the same fight. Not taking anything away from Cotto either, hes a great fighter and he won.

                  but paulies whole fight plan was to box cotto and he couldnt do that...from the start of the fight paulie had to stand toe to toe with him and throw and obviously, miguel is going to win that fight 10 times outta 10
                  When Paulie was boxing, he was being beat, when he was fighting he being beat. The only time that he shined was when Cotto was sitting back from his spurts.

                  If a ring is 1 foot smaller, the boxer shouldnt stray from boxing. Rings that size are used very often, It wasn't a midget ring. He was still able to box, and when he did, he was still losing.

                  Please stop the excuses, Paulie did not win, and would not have won with a bigger ring. Paulie is good, but not as good as Cotto.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by machotime

                    Please stop the excuses, Paulie did not win, and would not have won with a bigger ring. Paulie is good, but not as good as Cotto.
                    i never made any excuses

                    i said before "not taking anything from cotto, hes a great fighter and he won"

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                      #70
                      STC, you stated that you wouldn't waste your time with my nonsense. I understand. But to reiterate my point, a real "boxer" would be able to use any ring, no matter the size. When they train in the gym, what is the size of the ring they spar on? I am sure it is the same size as a standard ring. You are telling me that Paulie trains in a big ring. If thats the case, there is the problem, he is used to a big ring so he expected one. He should've been training in different size rings so he wouldn't get caught unprpared. but you cant blame Cotto for calls like that because I doubt Cotto has an input as to Venue, size of ring or for that matter the weigh-in. This is all the promotors decisions. One last thing, they had mentioned the DLH vs Tito ring. Apparently Bob "the genius" Arum knows his ****, as he was the one promoting that fight as well.

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