If Joshua-Wilder doesn't happen next, Ortiz deserves a rematch.

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  • R_Walken
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    #11
    Not a f.ucking chance

    Wilder won. Wilders the champ and it wasn’t controversial it’s time to move on

    Great fight but the real reasons these F.ucking lames want a rematch is because they want Ortiz to win and dash the possibility of AJ fighting Wilder

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    • Robbie Barrett
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      #12
      Originally posted by R_Walken
      Not a f.ucking chance

      Wilder won. Wilders the champ and it wasn’t controversial it’s time to move on

      Great fight but the real reasons these F.ucking lames want a rematch is because they want Ortiz to win and dash the possibility of AJ fighting Wilder
      So you don't want the rematch because you're afraid Wilder will lose?

      Did you read the title? I said if Joshua-Wilder DOESN'T happen.

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      • Kezzer
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        #13
        Although Ortiz was well ahead I’m not sure why this would happen,

        1) why would wilder take that chance given he was behind but got the win?
        2) does Ortiz really have anything more? He clearly gassed out in this fight.

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        • R_Walken
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          #14
          Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
          So you don't want the rematch because you're afraid Wilder will lose?

          Did you read the title? I said if Joshua-Wilder DOESN'T happen.
          We all know that the Wilder / AJ fight isn’t happening next because Hearn don’t want
          It next. He’s going to delay as long as he can

          Your right Wilder has a good chance to lose the rematch Ortiz is skilled as f.uck. But that doesn’t matter unless it’s controversial or for big $ rematches don’t need to happen because top level boxers fighters fight so infrequently

          In the top echelon You have 1 chance to show and prove and Ortiz came up short

          But this isn’t a Big $ fight , it wasn’t controversial and Wilder was the Champ, why potentially derail the biggest HW fight in AJ / Wilder

          Boxing doesn’t
          Work like that

          Wilder took on a fighter everyone said he wouldn’t and every other Champ didn’t want
          To fight and Knocked him out. End of story

          Now it’s time for Hearn and co. To show some stones and make the fight everyone wants to see

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          • Madison Boxing
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            #15
            nah no point in my opinion, judges had wilder up, the fix was in. ortiz will just be even older and slower.

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            • Robbie Barrett
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              #16
              Originally posted by R_Walken
              We all know that the Wilder / AJ fight isn’t happening next because Hearn don’t want
              It next. He’s going to delay as long as he can

              Your right Wilder has a good chance to lose the rematch Ortiz is skilled as f.uck. But that doesn’t matter unless it’s controversial or for big $ rematches don’t need to happen because top level boxers fighters fight so infrequently

              In the top echelon You have 1 chance to show and prove and Ortiz came up short

              But this isn’t a Big $ fight , it wasn’t controversial and Wilder was the Champ, why potentially derail the biggest HW fight in AJ / Wilder

              Boxing doesn’t
              Work like that

              Wilder took on a fighter everyone said he wouldn’t and every other Champ didn’t want
              To fight and Knocked him out. End of story

              Now it’s time for Hearn and co. To show some stones and make the fight everyone wants to see
              Oh you're one ****** Wilder fans that blames Hearn even though Wilder is the one making unrealistic demands. My mistake i thought i was replying to someone with a bit of common sense.

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              • Shrap
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                #17
                Although gracious in defeat, I don't think Ortiz has much more to give. He's at retirement age and he put everything into this fight.

                I doubt if we'll see anymore big fights from him. I think he might have a couple more smaller fights in him and then he'll call it a day.

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                • Rip Chudd
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                  #18
                  Nah, if Joshua vs Wilder isn't next i'd like to see him fight Whyte and shut him up

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                    Oh you're one ****** Wilder fans that blames Hearn even though Wilder is the one making unrealistic demands. My mistake i thought i was replying to someone with a bit of common sense.
                    Yup I’m just a dumb Wilder fan

                    It’s laughable that you take Hearn for his word when everything points to him delaying the fight

                    Hearn could have set up the fight instead of the Pulev/ Takam fight ( Mando though ) he could have set up the fight instead of Parker if he really wanted the fight

                    And if AJ gets past Parker there’ll be another excuse why AJ /Wilder doesn’t happen next

                    Wilder starting off high that’s kind of how it works in boxing when your the B side. Hearn and AJ are the A side if / when they want the fight they’d make it happen and if you didn’t believe the Pr Hearn gives to the Gullible fans who just want to believe the narrative that he gives you’d realize that

                    AJ fans are the same as PAC fans when Arum was spinning his web of lies for years about why the fight wasn’t happening and just repeat what he says and look ****** doing it

                    Hearn hasn’t even even had serious discussions about the fight he got caught lying in thaboxingvoice podcast by Wilder and Finkel
                    When they had a meeting after the podcast, Hearn supposedly only Discussed a Whyte fight and wouldn’t even give the promise of a AJ fight if Wilder won

                    Figured youd just jump straight in with the ****** Wilder fan response instead of having even a semi decent rebuttal of the points

                    - wasn’t controversial
                    - Isn’t big enough fight $ wise or status to merit it
                    - wilder didn’t lose his strap
                    - why potentially derail the biggest HW fight

                    You just sound like the person I mentioned in my first post a AJ fan who wants Wilder to lose before he fights AJ so you and Hearn have a excuse for them not to fight and the best chance of that happening is if Wilder and Ortiz fought again


                    The fact is Wilder took on the biggest challenge not named AJ and knocked him out now it’s time to move on to the fight everyone wants to see next except Hearn and b.itch made AJ fans

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by R_Walken
                      Yup I’m just a dumb Wilder fan

                      It’s laughable that you take Hearn for his word when everything points to him delaying the fight

                      Hearn could have set up the fight instead of the Pulev/ Takam fight ( Mando though ) he could have set up the fight instead of Parker if he really wanted the fight

                      And if AJ gets past Parker there’ll be another excuse why AJ /Wilder doesn’t happen next

                      Wilder starting off high that’s kind of how it works in boxing when your the B side. Hearn and AJ are the A side if / when they want the fight they’d make it happen and if you didn’t believe the Pr Hearn gives to the Gullible fans who just want to believe the narrative that he gives you’d realize that

                      AJ fans are the same as PAC fans when Arum was spinning his web of lies for years about why the fight wasn’t happening and just repeat what he says and look ****** doing it

                      Hearn hasn’t even even had serious discussions about the fight he got caught lying in thaboxingvoice podcast by Wilder and Finkel
                      When they had a meeting after the podcast, Hearn supposedly only Discussed a Whyte fight and wouldn’t even give the promise of a AJ fight if Wilder won

                      Figured youd just jump straight in with the ****** Wilder fan response instead of having even a semi decent rebuttal of the points

                      - wasn’t controversial
                      - Isn’t big enough fight $ wise or status to merit it
                      - wilder didn’t lose his strap
                      - why potentially derail the biggest HW fight

                      You just sound like the person I mentioned in my first post a AJ fan who wants Wilder to lose before he fights AJ so you and Hearn have a excuse for them not to fight and the best chance of that happening is if Wilder and Ortiz fought again


                      The fact is Wilder took on the biggest challenge not named AJ and knocked him out now it’s time to move on to the fight everyone wants to see next except Hearn and b.itch made AJ fans
                      Wilder didn't start off high. He gave a ultimatum 50/50 or no fight. We got no fight.

                      Nothing else matters.

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