If Joshua-Wilder doesn't happen next, Ortiz deserves a rematch.

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  • MasterPlan
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    #21
    Uh we see what happened with Wilder-Stiverne 2 ... but yall wanna see this. Ortiz will be older.

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    • b00g13man
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      #22
      Nah, not interested. It was a conclusive win.

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      • R_Walken
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        #23
        Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
        Wilder didn't start off high. He gave a ultimatum 50/50 or no fight. We got no fight.

        Nothing else matters.
        Good job having a rebuttal to anything I wrote why a rematch isn’t needed



        All I see is a fan of AJs who’s p.ussy dries up when the thought of fighting Wilder crosses their mind

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        • CodeBreaker
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          #24
          Rematch ONLY if Joshua vs Wilder does not happen.

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          • hugh grant
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            #25
            Its got to be josh v wilder next.
            But ortijz deserves another shot at wilder solely on basis judges just about to rob Ortiz on cards

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            • Robbie Barrett
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              #26
              Originally posted by R_Walken
              Good job having a rebuttal to anything I wrote why a rematch isn’t needed



              All I see is a fan of AJs who’s p.ussy dries up when the thought of fighting Wilder crosses their mind
              I can't really be bothered with someone so biased they can't see asking for 50/50 or no fight is Wilder pricing himself out.

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              • MDPopescu
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                #27
                Originally posted by Shrap
                Although gracious in defeat, I don't think Ortiz has much more to give. He's at retirement age and he put everything into this fight.

                I doubt if we'll see anymore big fights from him. I think he might have a couple more smaller fights in him and then he'll call it a day.
                yes, Ortiz is quite done...

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                • R_Walken
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                  I can't really be bothered with someone so biased they can't see asking for 50/50 or no fight is Wilder pricing himself out.
                  Yeah makes sense that because you don’t like the truth about Hearn not wanting the AJ /Wilder fight that you won’t give a response To the thread you started about this fight needing a rematch

                  It doesn’t need a rematch because

                  Unlike Say a Kov/Ward or GGg/Canelo is wasnt controversial decision in fact Ortiz got KTFO

                  It wasnt a big $ fight ( PPV ) or big enough profile fight ( Showtimes #s probably will be lower then the Stirvine fight because of HBos telecast) for the Wilder camp to think a rematch is necessary

                  - Wilder didn’t lose his strap and need to get it back

                  - Why fight probably the most skilled HW again in another risky fight for not huge $ That only hardcore boxing fans would be interested in

                  the public is clamouring for a huge AJ Wilder fight

                  Don’t answer its ok we know the real reason is you want Wilder to lose so you have a valid excuse why AJ doesn’t need to fight him.

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                  • Robbie Barrett
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by R_Walken
                    Yeah makes sense that because you don’t like the truth about Hearn not wanting the AJ /Wilder fight that you won’t give a response To the thread you started about this fight needing a rematch

                    It doesn’t need a rematch because

                    Unlike Say a Kov/Ward or GGg/Canelo is wasnt controversial decision in fact Ortiz got KTFO

                    It wasnt a big $ fight ( PPV ) or big enough profile fight ( Showtimes #s probably will be lower then the Stirvine fight because of HBos telecast) for the Wilder camp to think a rematch is necessary

                    - Wilder didn’t lose his strap and need to get it back

                    - Why fight probably the most skilled HW again in another risky fight for not huge $ That only hardcore boxing fans would be interested in

                    the public is clamouring for a huge AJ Wilder fight

                    Don’t answer its ok we know the real reason is you want Wilder to lose so you have a valid excuse why AJ doesn’t need to fight him.
                    It was a fight Wilder was losing and almost got stopped in. If no Joshua fight what other fight makes more money? Fights where the guy winning gets stopped late usually have demand for rematches.

                    Atleast you were honest about not wanting it because you're afraid he loses.

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                    • R_Walken
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                      It was a fight Wilder was losing and almost got stopped in. If no Joshua fight what other fight makes more money? Fights where the guy winning gets stopped late usually have demand for rematches.

                      Atleast you were honest about not wanting it because you're afraid he loses.
                      I’m pretty sure he was up on the cards ( whether you agreed or not )

                      Yeah afraid he loses.. why would I give a s.hit if a fighter I watch loses its boxing eventually almost everyone loses

                      it was a great fight I’d be down for a rematch but the way boxing works it doesn’t need it and shouldn’t happen especially with a huge Wilder / AJ fight lined up

                      Ortiz isn’t a name wasn’t the champion and it’s not a big $ fight and it wasn’t controversial

                      Case closed

                      You want a Rematch because you hope Wilder loses and it’ll give you a excuse why AJ shouldn’t fight him l. It sounds like you are the one who is afraid of your man crush losing.

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