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    #41
    Originally posted by Mr Objecitivity
    poorly conditioned Luis Ortiz
    he was basically the same weight as when he fought jennings and thompson. was he poorly conditioned then?

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      #42
      Ernie Shavers dusted dudes.



      Forgot how to embed I've rarely posted for so long.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Mr Objecitivity
        Retired grand father Wladimir Klitschko sparked and knocked out Kubrat Pulev more brutally than Deontay Wilder knocked out Luis Ortiz.

        Deontay Wilder is still yet to show that he has greater punching power than Wladimir Klitschko as far as I'm concerned.

        Against all common opponents (Jason Gavern and Eric Molina). It was Anthony Joshua who knocked out all of them quicker, with fewer punches than Deontay Wilder did.

        Deontay Wilder's power is clearly overrated if anyone already thinks he has greater punching power than Wladimir Klitschko, Anthony Joshua or even David Haye and Alexander Povetkin.
        who the **** is pulev. did he fight any of the punchers memtioned?

        Povetkin knocked out Takam without a ref's stoppage therefore Povetkin hits harder than AJ. right?

        Povektkin couldn't even stop a cruiser Marco Huck LMAO. **** this is too easy.

        Both of those guys do not hit as hard as even Ortiz lmao.

        Ortiz blew out Jennings who Klitschko couldn't stop. So by your own logic, Ortiz hit harder than Klit.
        Last edited by HeadShots; 03-04-2018, 04:04 AM.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Vlad_
          Why the hate on Wilder? He KOd a very legit opponent tonight, and his right hand is a real threat to Joshua’s chin. Joshua struggled against Takam last time, so he’s not perfect either.

          AJ vs DW will be a great fight for Heavyweight supremacy.
          I'm not hating on anybody. I'm just calling it as it is. Wilder is getting overrated due to one performance in his 40th fight. Not too impressive because this is expected from a heavyweight title holder with 40 bouts.

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            #45
            Originally posted by HeadShots
            Povetkin knocked out Takam without a doctor's stoppage therefore Povetkin hits harder than AJ. right?


            Both of those guys do not hit as hard as even Ortiz lmao.

            Ortiz blew out Jennings who Klitschko couldn't stop. So by your own logic, Ortiz hit harder than Klit.
            I'm not claiming Povetkin hits harder than AJ. But that stoppage was clearly premature when AJ stopped Takam. AJ may have also knocked out Takam like Povetkin did if the referee hadn't stepped in. Who knows?


            What has Luis Ortiz shown to suggest he hits harder than Povetkin, Haye or Wladimir Klitschko?

            I'm not claiming either of those guys hit harder than the other. Rather, I'm claiming Wilder hasn't proven himself to be the more powerful puncher than Wladimir Klitschko, Alexander Povetkin or David Haye.

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              #46
              Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
              he was basically the same weight as when he fought jennings and thompson. was he poorly conditioned then?
              Weight isn't the only thing that affects a boxer's conditioning. Especially at heavyweight boxing where being heavier doesn't always mean having worse conditioning.

              Age and ring activity are bigger factors. Luis Ortiz was younger and more active when he fought Bryant Jennings.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Mr Objecitivity
                I'm not claiming Povetkin hits harder than AJ. But that stoppage was clearly premature when AJ stopped Takam. AJ may have also knocked out Takam like Povetkin did if the referee hadn't stepped in. Who knows?


                What has Luis Ortiz shown to suggest he hits harder than Povetkin, Haye or Wladimir Klitschko?

                I'm not claiming either of those guys hit harder than the other. Rather, I'm claiming Wilder hasn't proven himself to be the more powerful puncher than Wladimir Klitschko, Alexander Povetkin or David Haye.


                Haye and Povetkin couldn't stop cruisers like Huck and Bellew(LHW) LMAO

                and by your own logic, AJ couldn't stop Takam without a ref when Povetkin did and earlier throwing fewer punches.

                So therefore Povetkin has more punching power than AJ.


                please go. you're an idiot.
                Last edited by HeadShots; 03-04-2018, 04:08 AM.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by HeadShots
                  Haye and Povetkin couldn't stop cruisers like Huck and Bellew(LHW) LMAO


                  please go. you're an idiot.

                  David Haye was injured against Tony Bellew. How does that prove he lacks power?

                  And Luis Ortiz couldn't even stop Malik Scott.

                  So who is the real idiot here?

                  Alexander Povetkin has stopped / knocked out many more previously UN-KO'ed opponents than Luis Ortiz ever did.

                  Alexander Povetkin has also knocked out more opponents that were higher ranked more cleanly than Luis Ortiz has.

                  So how does one fight prove anything about who has greater punching power?

                  Alexander Povetkin put Johan Duhapas and Carlos Takam to sleep. Who has Luis Ortiz put to sleep like that?

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Mr Objecitivity
                    David Haye was injured against Tony Bellew. How does that prove he lacks power?

                    And Luis Ortiz couldn't even stop Malik Scott.

                    So who is the real idiot here?

                    Alexander Povetkin has stopped / knocked out many more previously UN-KO'ed opponents than Luis Ortiz ever did.

                    Alexander Povetkin has also knocked out more opponents that were higher ranked more cleanly than Luis Ortiz has.

                    So how does one fight prove anything about who has greater punching power?

                    Alexander Povetkin put Johan Duhapas and Carlos Takam to sleep. Who has Luis Ortiz put to sleep like that?


                    David Haye injured himself in the 6th. he couldn't KD let alone KO a blown up LHW

                    Povetkin coulnd't KO Huck.


                    you set the bar, going by lowlights according to you. I'm using your logic to destroy your own argument lol





                    you're an idiot. end of discussion.
                    Last edited by HeadShots; 03-04-2018, 04:19 AM.

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                    • Mr Objecitivity
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by HeadShots
                      David Haye injured himself in the 6th. he couldn't KD let alone KO a blown up LHW who spent most of his career at SMW


                      you're an idiot. end of discussion.
                      No, he was injured from the start. His movement indicated this. His injury only became worse after the 6th round.

                      So because I don't believe Deontay Wilder is the most powerful puncher ever, that it therefore makes me an idiot?

                      Care to explain how you arrived at that bullet proof conclusion?

                      Luis Ortiz couldn't KO Malik Scott. So what's your point? Povetkin still KO'ed higher ranked opponents more cleanly than Ortiz has.

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