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  • Long jabber
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    #121
    Originally posted by Banderivets
    This just came to me...

    I recall many years ago (I'm probably one of the oldest active members in this God forsaken place) some folks liked to make the argument that the Klitschko's (as an example) would be hard to beat by past heavyweights, just because they appear to present such an insurmountable challenge because of their physical attributes. Those being 6'6"+ 250lb...now couple this with the fact that both brothers actually had legitimate skill sets.

    But, this argument was brushed off because the opponents would say "the skill of past champions would be simply too much....size is nothing.....this is boxing........" etc. etc....

    Now we have a similar scenario except we have Wilder who is even taller, greater reach, but absolutely zero skill (lets be honest, I've seen club level heavyweights with better everything skill wise compared to wilder) to whom, the above argument used for KLitschko's doesn't apply.

    Many are actually picking Wilder who is nothing but an odd physical specimen against a man in Ortiz who is fundamentally solid and is a legit fighter.

    What has changed?

    Bottom line here is that, and Wilder is the proof of it, that physical attributes alone, in a proper combination are enough to get you far in boxing. It is enough to make you a champion.

    Many are picking wilder because he is an explosive guy with a lot of power. He also throws away his defense in favor of landing that glorious knockout shot. I don't think size has anything to do with it its just wilder is younger more explosive and has Ko power in both hands with willingness to sling them. Who doesn't wanna see a guy like that win

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    • Banderivets
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      #122
      Originally posted by Long jabber
      Many are picking wilder because he is an explosive guy with a lot of power. He also throws away his defense in favor of landing that glorious knockout shot. I don't think size has anything to do with it its just wilder is younger more explosive and has Ko power in both hands with willingness to sling them. Who doesn't wanna see a guy like that win
      My post was less so about height than it is about how one attribute of a fighter can be enough to take them to the peak of the sport, which in Wilder's case is his power.

      For me that is a sad state of affairs...

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      • SN!PER
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        #123
        I been ready! I been ready RIGHT NOW!!

        I caint wait yall. This fight going down in the classics of all times.

        Imma Heavyweight Tommy Hearns. A Super Size Roy Jones. Look out Joshua!

        BOOOOOOOOOOOOOMB SQUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD!

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        • champion4ever
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          #124
          I don't know but if Ortiz is clean he is going to get knocked out a lot sooner than usual. He is looking a lot older and slower nowadays. Wilder just need to step up the tempo by making it a very fast paced firefight.

          Ortiz on the other hand wants to box by slowing down the tempo and relying solely on his pedigree and fundamentals. However, The "Bronze Bomber" shouldn't fall for that trap. He should make the old man work.

          Deontay is the much younger athletic man with more speed, stamina, power and cardio conditioning. Given Wilder's firepower this fight should end early.

          I see Wilder stopping him under three rounds.

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          • Boksfan
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            #125
            Key to victory for Ortiz is to cut ring fast, Wilder is fighting on his back foot and possess no defence. If Ortiz can get to him fast enough when Wilder is backing out he can hit him. Is there enough speed left in them old Cuban legs?
            Last edited by Boksfan; 02-24-2018, 06:18 PM.

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            • sotgoda
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              #126
              Originally posted by Banderivets
              My post was less so about height than it is about how one attribute of a fighter can be enough to take them to the peak of the sport, which in Wilder's case is his power.

              For me that is a sad state of affairs...
              You are the one with the sad state if all you can see is Wilder's power. You are trying to act sensible but you are not. Does Wilder not throw the jab? How about the left hook? How about his movement? Does he not throw the right hand? Is it power that lets him avoid punches? Is it power that lets helps him move his head?

              This is the problem with folks like you - you don't have to like Wilder. No one cares but at least be objective about what you see. Wilder beat Stiverne in 1st fight all with a jab; same against Arreola. Or you did not see that too?

              Wilder sent Gerald Washington to the right with a left hook before a 1-2 used to drop him. Or you did not see that too?

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                #127
                Originally posted by sotgoda
                You are the one with the sad state if all you can see is Wilder's power. You are trying to act sensible but you are not. Does Wilder not throw the jab? How about the left hook? How about his movement? Does he not throw the right hand? Is it power that lets him avoid punches? Is it power that lets helps him move his head?

                This is the problem with folks like you - you don't have to like Wilder. No one cares but at least be objective about what you see. Wilder beat Stiverne in 1st fight all with a jab; same against Arreola. Or you did not see that too?

                Wilder sent Gerald Washington to the right with a left hook before a 1-2 used to drop him. Or you did not see that too?
                Lmao are you on crack? Wilder can't box.

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                • inferiorTodd
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                  #128
                  did you not notice how completely pathetic wilder looked against washington before the ko? did you not notice arreola was a total washed up hasbeen that couldnt of beat anybody?

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                  • LacedUp
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                    #129
                    Expecting Wilder to KO ortiz in 6.

                    However, as usual with Wilder I'll end up being disappointed.

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                    • Just looking
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by sotgoda
                      You are the one with the sad state if all you can see is Wilder's power. You are trying to act sensible but you are not. Does Wilder not throw the jab? How about the left hook? How about his movement? Does he not throw the right hand? Is it power that lets him avoid punches? Is it power that lets helps him move his head?

                      This is the problem with folks like you - you don't have to like Wilder. No one cares but at least be objective about what you see. Wilder beat Stiverne in 1st fight all with a jab; same against Arreola. Or you did not see that too?

                      Wilder sent Gerald Washington to the right with a left hook before a 1-2 used to drop him. Or you did not see that too?
                      Exact. I was about to say it but these guys are so invested on downplaying the guy that I didn't think it would be a valid effort

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