Calling it now, Wilder doesn't see the 10th.

[rickJen]

Put your points where your mouth is homey.

[techliam]

Wilder could KO Ortiz pretty early

But I see this fight going the same way as Stiverne 1. Long rangy jab, good composure. Pretty clear UD for Wilder

[_original_]

I fear that Ortiz, who is damn near 70, will be too slow to pull the trigger and get caught early. If he weathers the early storm, I can certainly see him drowning Wilder in the later rounds in a methodical manner. He's by far the more skilled technician but it''ll be avoiding that right hand at all costs, and a southpaw, the threat will be there all night.

[Long jabber]

Ortiz should wins this with little discomfort. Wilder is so fast though he may catch him with a vicious punch.

[elfag]

I'll take any version of Ortiz ANY day over the opposition Wilder fought .

People dont know what they want and dont look at the actual skills.


Hes too muscular ,hes to fat , he doesnt have enough muscle , hes to skinny .......... etc . etc ......

Wilder at 215 is going to have a difficult fight ( imop is to small at 6'7 ) for the caliber Ortiz is . If Ortiz ACTUALLY goes ALL in on him ,he wins !

Have you seen Ortiz's resume? You think Wilder's is bad? Ortiz's is atrocious. Ortiz is completely unproven as a pro. He is a fat unproven 38 year old fighter. The last guy he fought was 16-5-1. He has been fighting club level fighters for the last 8 years. How could have he possibly grown as a fighter?

[Ray*]

You are severly underating a skilled fighter who just has to show up great ONE night like MOST great fighters do in TITLE fights .

I remember all you guys telling me Klitchko was too old ,past it , done .

Not only does Ortiz have less wear and tear than Wlad had but he just fought a tune up fight which helps immensely no matter how long it goes ( with the exception of anything under 2 minutes ) and Wilder is not Joshua .


Wilders resume isnt fighting ,and outside Joshua you wont find a more dangerous fighter than Ortiz ...... IF he comes to win !

Of course he comes to win, not underrating Ortiz at all. I just don’t think this version of Ortiz wins this fight against this version of Wilder. Maybe am overrating Wilder but I doubt that.

[juggernaut666]

Have you seen Ortiz's resume? You think Wilder's is bad? Ortiz's is atrocious. Ortiz is completely unproven as a pro. He is a fat unproven 38 year old fighter. The last guy he fought was 16-5-1. He is a 2x gold medalist who has been fighting club level fighters for the last 8 years. How could have he possibly grown as a fighter?

He doesnt have to grow hes already more skilled

You have a weird perception of FAT . In no way shape or form does Wilder 214 or anything below 220 benfit him here . . Again Ortiz resume isnt fighting .

[juggernaut666]

Of course he comes to win, not underrating Ortiz at all. I just don’t think this version of Ortiz wins this fight against this version of Wilder. Maybe am overrating Wilder but I doubt that.

I picked Wilder to win but have doubts now , read above . Really i edge this too Ortiz ,no Wilder fight particularly the Spzilka (southpaw fight ) suggest confidence and now hes weighing much less against an OBVIOUS problem than anyone Wilder fought bc Ortiz not only tougher he can PUNCH .

[juggernaut666]

I feel like Hearns is concerned for Wilder to win, because he's afraid of Joshua facing Ortiz. Ortiz is a wolf in sheeps clothing.

Afraid has nothing to do with it .

Its about making MUCH more money and Ortiz isnt nearly as marketable as Wilder or that fight of U.K vs U.S champions in itself .

[billeau2]

I'll take any version of Ortiz ANY day over the opposition Wilder fought .

People dont know what they want and dont look at the actual skills.


Hes too muscular ,hes to fat , he doesnt have enough muscle , hes to skinny .......... etc . etc ......

Wilder at 215 is going to have a difficult fight ( imop is to small at 6'7 ) for the caliber Ortiz is . If Ortiz ACTUALLY goes ALL in on him ,he wins !

Thank the heavens someone else can say it for a change... Very well said Juggy, very well said.

To me the central question of this fight is whether Wilder will remain a one handed fighter. Ortiz can avoid one punch all night. If Wilder is able to show he has put it together enough to work off his jab, and throw combos it may be a good fight. If it goes to the cards unfortunately the judges will probably give it to Wilder unless Ortiz wins by a great margin.

But there is a very good chance that Ortiz exposes Wilder.

JUgs you will remember what they say in training..."during a crisis we all revert to our lowest level of attained skill." While Ortiz has been in boxing rings for a long time, Wilder is a relative newcomer and if he starts getting wild because he is being hit and forgets to do the things he has improved upon... It will be a long night for him.