Comments Thread For: Joshua Views Wilder as Easier Fight Than Parker, Says Hearn

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Unlike you, I'm not claiming any kind of personal involvement with the people behind this fight.

So if your position is that you were more easily fooled because you had no way of knowing better -- that's fair. I'm not blaming you for believing a propaganda video that was 100% inaccurate. You're being inundated every day with anti-Wilder propaganda and because you're just a fan, you're going to believe what you see.

But maybe this can be a turning point for you. If something you've read and seen on so many boxing sites turned out to be 100% false, is it possible that I've been telling the truth that Wilder is being unfairly portrayed?

The video you posted claimed over 60% of the tickets haven't sold yet. That's just a blatant lie. I gave you the exact number of tickets remaining. You didn't know any better, that's fine. You trusted what you read, on numerous sites.

So let this be a wake up call. A lot of people are lying to you. Don't feel bad that you got fooled. Could happen to anybody. I am not pro-Wilder or pro-PBC. I am pro-facts. Period. If Wilder was bombing at the box office, I'd be the first to say it.

This is a chance for you to unplug from the matrix. Don't just take my word for it. Make me prove myself. But be open to the possibility that there is a lot of bull**** online about Wilder.

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Hughie and Ruiz Jr are far better than anybody Wilder has beaten.

Now tell us again about what a formidable opponent Stiverne was .. that's always funny!

Stiverne and Duhaupas both had better wins before losing to Wilder than Ruiz Jr had before losing to Parker.

Can you honestly dispute that? Get rid of the bias. Don't look at me as the bad guy. Make me prove myself. If you go to boxrec, you will see I am telling the truth. I am not the enemy. I am just presenting facts.

Ruiz's best win was a 29-6-4 Ray Austin. Stivern's first Arreola win is a better win than that.

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Stiverne and Duhaupas both had better wins before losing to Wilder than Ruiz Jr had before losing to Parker.

Can you honestly dispute that? Get rid of the bias. Don't look at me as the bad guy. Make me prove myself. If you go to boxrec, you will see I am telling the truth. I am not the enemy. I am just presenting facts.

Ruiz's best win was a 29-6-4 Ray Austin. Stivern's first Arreola win is a better win than that.

Arreola who fought Stiverne was NOT better than the Ruiz that fought Parker .

Im sure no SENSIBLE fan needs boxrec to understand that .


Considering Ruiz could have had his hand raised . Do you think Arreolas or Stiverne was better than Parker ? Wait dont answer that !

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So if your position is that you were more easily fooled because you had no way of knowing better -- that's fair. I'm not blaming you for believing a propaganda video that was 100% inaccurate. You're being inundated every day with anti-Wilder propaganda and because you're just a fan, you're going to believe what you see.

But maybe this can be a turning point for you. If something you've read and seen on so many boxing sites turned out to be 100% false, is it possible that I've been telling the truth that Wilder is being unfairly portrayed?

The video you posted claimed over 60% of the tickets haven't sold yet. That's just a blatant lie. I gave you the exact number of tickets remaining. You didn't know any better, that's fine. You trusted what you read, on numerous sites.

So let this be a wake up call. A lot of people are lying to you. Don't feel bad that you got fooled. Could happen to anybody. I am not pro-Wilder or pro-PBC. I am pro-facts. Period. If Wilder was bombing at the box office, I'd be the first to say it.

This is a chance for you to unplug from the matrix. Don't just take my word for it. Make me prove myself. But be open to the possibility that there is a lot of bull**** online about Wilder.

I know there's a lot of bull**** online, and bombing at the box office is relative to expectations and comparisons.

AJ vs Parker is still a month away, and all 78,000 tickets are long gone.

Wilder vs Ortiz - at a much smaller venue and with average prices significatly lower - is tomorrow, and there are still how many tickets left available?

50/50 or no fight doe. USA the home of big time boxing doe.

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Arreola who fought Stiverne was NOT better than the Ruiz that fought Parker .

Nobody said that. What was said was that beating Arreola the first time was a bigger win than beating Ray Austin.

Stop blatantly lying. All the ****ing time.

You lied about Stiverne's ranking. You lied about when AJ's fight was scheduled for. You lied about when Fury's fight was scheduled for. Over and over and over you post bull**** that is completely exposed.

You never apologize. You never acknowledge it. You just hide and then post more bull****.

Whether you're a brilliant troll or a ****ing ******, it doesn't really matter. Because either way, you're posting lies over and over and over. Easily spotted lies. Lies that are so easy to disprove. And have been disproved repeatedly.

Whether you're a performance artist or an idiot, I don't care. But you're going on block if you're not at least going to acknowledge when you post something completely factually inaccurate that is 100% proven wrong.

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Nobody said that. What was said was that beating Arreola the first time was a bigger win than beating Ray Austin.

Stop blatantly lying. All the ****ing time.

You lied about Stiverne's ranking. You lied about when AJ's fight was scheduled for. You lied about when Fury's fight was scheduled for. Over and over and over you post bull**** that is completely exposed.

You never apologize. You never acknowledge it. You just hide and then post more bull****.

Whether you're a brilliant troll or a ****ing ******, it doesn't really matter. Because either way, you're posting lies over and over and over. Easily spotted lies. Lies that are so easy to disprove. And have been disproved repeatedly.

Whether you're a performance artist or an idiot, I don't care. But you're going on block if you're not at least going to acknowledge when you post something completely factually inaccurate that is 100% proven wrong.

King LIAR , it is YOU trying to suggest Wilder has a better win than Parker .

So answer the question .

Do you believe Stiverne or Arreola , hell throw Duhaupas were better than the Ruiz who fought Parker ?

You wont answer it bc then you are claiming those guys to be better than Parker .


See this is what happens routinely on here with you ...and that is you corner yourself bc you have no idea what your talking about ! Now your CRYING and truly showing what everyone already knows on here and thats your bat shyte crazy !

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I know there's a lot of bull**** online, and bombing at the box office is relative to expectations and comparisons.

So in the future, if I write something you disagree with, don't believe, or are confused by, don't say something rude or mean. Have a productive discussion with me. Tell me what you disagree with what I wrote or don't understand what I wrote. Give me a chance to prove myself. There is so much hate and trolling on this site. Let's make a pact to have civil conversations with each other no matter how much we disagree. Let's set an example for everyone else that we can make a decision to have an intelligent discussion. Fair?

AJ vs Parker is still a month away, and all 78,000 tickets are long gone.

That's because AJ is a much bigger star than Wilder is. Like you said, box office is all relative. Boxing is much much more popular in the UK than it is in the US and AJ is the UK's biggest star.

But over here, in the US, where boxing is much less popular, Wilder is one of the biggest draws we have. Not the biggest. Not in the top 3. But certainly in the top 10 and possibly in the top 5.

HBO & SHO are going head to head in New York City tomorrow. Wilder's venue is 4x the size of Kovalev's venue. Wilder's tickets are twice the price of Kovalev's tickets. Wilder's event, with the much bigger venue and the much higher prices, is also much closer to a sell out. Kovalev is struggling to sell even a few thousand tickets.

Wilder vs. Ortiz is selling much better than SHO, Haymon or Dibella expected. Wilder is starting to catch on because that Stiverne knockout went viral. So just because AJ is in another stratosphere in terms of popularity, that doesn't change the fact that Wilder is still very popular compared to most others in the US.

Wilder vs Ortiz - at a much smaller venue and with average prices significatly lower - is tomorrow, and there are still how many tickets left available?

Wilder vs. Ortiz - at a much LARGER venue and with much HIGHER ticket prices, has far fewer tickets left than the HBO show the same night in the same city. Kovalev's failure to sell any tickets is the real story here. Wilder is likely to sell more tickets tomorrow than he's ever sold in his life.

50/50 or no fight doe. USA the home of big time boxing doe.

No need for trolling. Let's just chat like reasonable adults. No reasonable person believes Wilder deserves 50/50. Because he brings the US market to the table, it's possible he deserves something close to 60/40. Wilder is demanding 50/50 because he knows Hearn will offer 70/30. It's just part of the negotiation process to initially ask for way too much.

The USA is the home of the biggest boxing, but boxing overall is still way more popular in the UK. In the US, most people only care about the absolute biggest megafights. The huge crossover fights. Most boxing "fans" in the US watch boxing once a year. But for those big events, more money can be generated here than anywhere else.

This doesn't have to be US vs UK or me vs you. Let's just honestly assess the facts and try to find some common ground.

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Stiverne and Duhaupas both had better wins before losing to Wilder than Ruiz Jr had before losing to Parker.

Can you honestly dispute that? Get rid of the bias. Don't look at me as the bad guy. Make me prove myself. If you go to boxrec, you will see I am telling the truth. I am not the enemy. I am just presenting facts.

Ruiz's best win was a 29-6-4 Ray Austin. Stivern's first Arreola win is a better win than that.

If I had to resort to bigging up Chris Arreola to make a point .. I'd leave it alone and move on.

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King LIAR , it is YOU trying to suggest Wilder has a better win than Parker .

That is a matter of opinion. If you and I disagree over the quality of a win, that doesn't mean anybody is lying.

But when you say that somebody is #5 in TBRB, call me a liar, call me an idiot, and I definitively prove they were #3, that means you were lying. When you falsify evidence and are caught doing so, that means you were lying.

When you say a fight was canceled on a specific date, but the date was completely wrong, that means you were lying. When you say a fight was scheduled for a specific month, but the month was completely wrong, that means you were lying.

Because if it was just an honest mistake, you would acknowledge the mistake and apologize. Instead, you run and hide, then post more bull****. I've caught you lying over and over and over and over. And I prove it. Definitively. I post indisputable evidence proving you are lying. Over and over and over.

And that is why I don't want to waste anymore time talking to you. Because you have zero interest in an honest good faith discussion. Unless you can show some good faith, some common decency, and some basic manners, I'm going to have to block you. If you want to talk to me with respect, and have civil chats, I am willing. Anything less and I'm done.

So answer the question .

I'm happy to answer any question that is asked civilly and in good faith.

Do you believe Stiverne or Arreola , hell throw Duhaupas were better than the Ruiz who fought Parker ?

I believe the Stiverne who fought Arreola was better than the Ruiz who fought Parker. If you disagree, let's talk about it with respect and have a productive discussion.

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So in the future, if I write something you disagree with, don't believe, or are confused by, don't say something rude or mean. Have a productive discussion with me. Tell me what you disagree with what I wrote or don't understand what I wrote. Give me a chance to prove myself. There is so much hate and trolling on this site. Let's make a pact to have civil conversations with each other no matter how much we disagree. Let's set an example for everyone else that we can make a decision to have an intelligent discussion. Fair?




That's because AJ is a much bigger star than Wilder is. Like you said, box office is all relative. Boxing is much much more popular in the UK than it is in the US and AJ is the UK's biggest star.

But over here, in the US, where boxing is much less popular, Wilder is one of the biggest draws we have. Not the biggest. Not in the top 3. But certainly in the top 10 and possibly in the top 5.

HBO & SHO are going head to head in New York City tomorrow. Wilder's venue is 4x the size of Kovalev's venue. Wilder's tickets are twice the price of Kovalev's tickets. Wilder's event, with the much bigger venue and the much higher prices, is also much closer to a sell out. Kovalev is struggling to sell even a few thousand tickets.

Wilder vs. Ortiz is selling much better than SHO, Haymon or Dibella expected. Wilder is starting to catch on because that Stiverne knockout went viral. So just because AJ is in another stratosphere in terms of popularity, that doesn't change the fact that Wilder is still very popular compared to most others in the US.




Wilder vs. Ortiz - at a much LARGER venue and with much HIGHER ticket prices, has far fewer tickets left than the HBO show the same night in the same city. Kovalev's failure to sell any tickets is the real story here. Wilder is likely to sell more tickets tomorrow than he's ever sold in his life.




No need for trolling. Let's just chat like reasonable adults. No reasonable person believes Wilder deserves 50/50. Because he brings the US market to the table, it's possible he deserves something close to 60/40. Wilder is demanding 50/50 because he knows Hearn will offer 70/30. It's just part of the negotiation process to initially ask for way too much.

The USA is the home of the biggest boxing, but boxing overall is still way more popular in the UK. In the US, most people only care about the absolute biggest megafights. The huge crossover fights. Most boxing "fans" in the US watch boxing once a year. But for those big events, more money can be generated here than anywhere else.

This doesn't have to be US vs UK or me vs you. Let's just honestly assess the facts and try to find some common ground.

Fair enough .. but it was you who started with the insults, not me!