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  • The Big Dunn
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    #251
    Originally posted by WesternChamp
    YOU still havent even give me a valid reason as to why he's scared of crawford.

    i just gave you examples of why he's not ducking/afraid of crawford but you keep insisting that he wants to revenge the embarrassment instead. so him ducking/afraid of crawford is not an embarrassment? you cant seem to dispute this.
    Yes I did, you just pretended not to see it. A brutal loss to Crawford virtually kills the ability to earn going forward. Not what you want at this stage of his career, especially since the plan is a "world tour". Crawford would be the younger, more skilled, fresher, bigger and smarter fighter who is as fast at this point in his career if he faced Manny now. Thats why he is scared to fight him now.

    If you don't find it valid, fine. But don't say you didn't see it. Now please tell me why he will not fight him IYO.

    No, i said the reason he wants the JMM 5th fight is revenge for the embarrassing KO. That is logical to anyone except you.

    You tried to deflect to the ****** "duh not fighting Crawford embarrassing to duh". if you want to play ****** do so, fine with me.

    Bottom line-should've fought Crawford instead of Horn. If Crawford beats Horn as I expect, then Manny should fight him to get the WBO WW title back. How you can have an issue with that is beyond me.

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    • WesternChamp
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      #252
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      Yes I did, you just pretended not to see it. A brutal loss to Crawford virtually kills the ability to earn going forward. Not what you want at this stage of his career, especially since the plan is a "world tour". Crawford would be the younger, more skilled, fresher, bigger and smarter fighter who is as fast at this point in his career if he faced Manny now. Thats why he is scared to fight him now.

      If you don't find it valid, fine. But don't say you didn't see it. Now please tell me why he will not fight him IYO.

      No, i said the reason he wants the JMM 5th fight is revenge for the embarrassing KO. That is logical to anyone except you.

      You tried to deflect to the ****** "duh not fighting Crawford embarrassing to duh". if you want to play ****** do so, fine with me.

      Bottom line-should've fought Crawford instead of Horn. If Crawford beats Horn as I expect, then Manny should fight him to get the WBO WW title back. How you can have an issue with that is beyond me.
      and a ko from marquez wont???????

      like i said, we havent seen what crawford can do, for all we know pac might even ko him! if you can "assume", so can i!

      BUT we all saw what marquez can do to manny! and you cant dispute this!!!!!!

      and going forward where???? where is he going? he's pretty much done.

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      • WesternChamp
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        #253
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn
        Yes I did, you just pretended not to see it. A brutal loss to Crawford virtually kills the ability to earn going forward. Not what you want at this stage of his career, especially since the plan is a "world tour". Crawford would be the younger, more skilled, fresher, bigger and smarter fighter who is as fast at this point in his career if he faced Manny now. Thats why he is scared to fight him now.

        If you don't find it valid, fine. But don't say you didn't see it. Now please tell me why he will not fight him IYO.

        No, i said the reason he wants the JMM 5th fight is revenge for the embarrassing KO. That is logical to anyone except you.

        You tried to deflect to the ****** "duh not fighting Crawford embarrassing to duh". if you want to play ****** do so, fine with me.

        Bottom line-should've fought Crawford instead of Horn. If Crawford beats Horn as I expect, then Manny should fight him to get the WBO WW title back. How you can have an issue with that is beyond me.
        so he wants to revenge the ko because of embarrassment even tho he might take a beating doing it?

        but he's ducking crawford because he doesnt want to take a beating? you see where you fcvked up???

        and him ducking crawford is not an embarrassment? yet, you're saying he wants to revenge the ko because of embarrassment? you see where you fcvked up there too????

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          #254
          Originally posted by WesternChamp
          and a ko from marquez wont???????

          like i said, we havent seen what crawford can do, for all we know pac might even ko him! if you can "assume", so can i!

          BUT we all saw what marquez can do to manny! and you cant dispute this!!!!!!

          and going forward where???? where is he going? he's pretty much done.
          This is where you are being ******. A KO loss to an ancient, past it JMM is not likely at this point. A brutal KO loss to Crawford is given the things I listed.

          You will not say it but your posts imply JMM is as dangerous as Crawford is right now. No one but a disgraceful idiot pac slurper believes that.

          We haven't but we are not all ******. We look at what each brings to the table. the problem is you lack the ability to look at this from a boxing fan perspective, only a pac fan perspective.

          Yes, we saw JMM KO manny 6 years ago. JMM obviously is a lot older and has been retired for some time. Please stop acting like its the same guy FFS.

          I agree. If he fights the Horn's and Matthysse's of the world, he can keep fighting, same way Floyd could fighting the Bertos and Conors. However a fight with Crawford could be a career ender for Manny.

          One can only hope.

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            #255
            Originally posted by WesternChamp
            so he wants to revenge the ko because of embarrassment even tho he might take a beating doing it?

            but he's ducking crawford because he doesnt want to take a beating? you see where you fcvked up???

            and him ducking crawford is not an embarrassment? yet, you're saying he wants to revenge the ko because of embarrassment? you see where you fcvked up there too????
            If you can't understand why he wants revenge there is no point to keep discussing. You are just arguing to argue because you have no good reason why he fought Horn instead of Crawford either.

            I didn't say he was ducking Crawford. He is scared of getting brutalized. As I said in my previous post if you think 45 yr old JMM is as dangerous and capable of brutalizing Manny as a 30 yr old Crawford than you are being purposely ****** just to keep the discussion going.

            Dude you are either incredibly ****** or borderline ******ed.

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            • djtmal
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              #256
              ya'll leave dunn alone....you know how him and larry get when floyd doesn't answer their fan mail...

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              • WesternChamp
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                #257
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                This is where you are being ******. A KO loss to an ancient, past it JMM is not likely at this point. A brutal KO loss to Crawford is given the things I listed.

                You will not say it but your posts imply JMM is as dangerous as Crawford is right now. No one but a disgraceful idiot pac slurper believes that.

                We haven't but we are not all ******. We look at what each brings to the table. the problem is you lack the ability to look at this from a boxing fan perspective, only a pac fan perspective.

                Yes, we saw JMM KO manny 6 years ago. JMM obviously is a lot older and has been retired for some time. Please stop acting like its the same guy FFS.

                I agree. If he fights the Horn's and Matthysse's of the world, he can keep fighting, same way Floyd could fighting the Bertos and Conors. However a fight with Crawford could be a career ender for Manny.

                One can only hope.
                lmao!!! we saw what marquez did to pac at 147! we havent seen what crawford can do yet. in fact, a ko from a old marquez will hurt manny even more going forward!!!! LOLOL!!! a ko from a past prime fighter will make it harder for pac to continue on his "world tour" as you put it. :rofl. now what???

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                • WesternChamp
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                  #258
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                  If you can't understand why he wants revenge there is no point to keep discussing. You are just arguing to argue because you have no good reason why he fought Horn instead of Crawford either.

                  I didn't say he was ducking Crawford. He is scared of getting brutalized. As I said in my previous post if you think 45 yr old JMM is as dangerous and capable of brutalizing Manny as a 30 yr old Crawford than you are being purposely ****** just to keep the discussion going.

                  Dude you are either incredibly ****** or borderline ******ed.
                  practice what you preach and take that to court and try explaining that to the judge.

                  crawford = zero fight at 147 but according to you pac is ducking him because pac doesnt want the beating crawford is gonna give to him which is gonna hurt his future earnings.

                  yet pac is asking for a 5th fight against marquez, the same guy that slept him. the same reason you're giving why pac wants to fight marquez is the same reason you trashed pac for ducking crawford.

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                  • The Big Dunn
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                    #259
                    Come on Manny. Your fans want to see you fight. They want to see you fight Loma, Matthysse, Alvarado, conor, broner, khan, ANYONE but Crawford!

                    Maybe if Crawford offered him $40 mil. Never mind, he'd fight Tim a 4th time instead.

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                    • WesternChamp
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                      #260
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                      If you can't understand why he wants revenge there is no point to keep discussing. You are just arguing to argue because you have no good reason why he fought Horn instead of Crawford either.

                      I didn't say he was ducking Crawford. He is scared of getting brutalized. As I said in my previous post if you think 45 yr old JMM is as dangerous and capable of brutalizing Manny as a 30 yr old Crawford than you are being purposely ****** just to keep the discussion going.

                      Dude you are either incredibly ****** or borderline ******ed.
                      if the embarrassment is enough for him to risk taking a beating against marquez, then why would he duck crawford!!!???? you see where you fcvked up there.

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