were ricky hatton and joe calzaghe overrated

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  • Bobby Deez
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    #21
    I think Calzaghe could at least hang with if not beat most in and around his weight throughout history. Hatton was barely world class.

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    • kafkod
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      #22
      Originally posted by McNulty
      You can't fight in the UK your entire career and expect to be anything but a local yocal.

      Jones made it crystal clear he wasn't fighting out of the country due to his experience in the Olympics. USA IS the stage for Boxing, always has and always will be. You UK scrubs can wank off to Wembley with 70k pulling in a mediocre gate all you want. Y'all fix fights, home brew champions, and let your fighters get away with murder (Benn.McClellan, Hatton.Tszyu), the list goes on.

      Go ahead and call Roy a cheat but the truth us the best Boxers in the Earth's history come from the United States of America. The UK will never be recognized for having great champions because your trainers are dogwank.

      Collins was a two-bit bum with domestic names littering his resume. If McCallum, Kalambay, or Reggie Johnson beat Steve in his prime, Roy Jones Jr. would have put that fool in a pine box pushing up daisies.

      Quit sniffing around my jockstrap sonny cuz you're cruising your way into a one-way ticket to my ignore list. You have never made a good post ONCE and every time I see you it's some UK nuthugger comment. Steve Collins, you got to be kidding me lmao.



      In a nutshell --- YDKSAB.
      *************** off you ignorant fanboy. Calzaghe owned that glass jawed steroid cheat when he eventually got him into the ring in 2008 and he would have owned him at any stage of their careers.

      Jones got KTFO by Calzaghe's former bucket carrier Enzo Maccarinelli, ffs.

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      • kafkod
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        #23
        Originally posted by Bobby Deez
        I think Calzaghe could at least hang with if not beat most in and around his weight throughout history. Hatton was barely world class.
        Hatton was better than that. He never lost in his natural weight division, only when he moved up for 2 ATGs.

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          #24
          Calzaghe is a borderline ATG and respect to him but Hatton not so much.

          I hated watching Hatton during his prime. He clinched and wrestled excessively always stalling the action.

          He was like John Ruiz.. *** hatton.

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          • Robbie Barrett
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            #25
            Originally posted by Sid-Knee
            Calzaghe was scared of flying but he never used that to duck anyone. He would have got on the plane if he had to.

            The Hopkins fight was meant to happen years earlier but Bernard pulled out after agreeing then asking for double the money the next day. Not Joe's fault at all.
            What a load of crap. He pulled out of a Glen Johnson fight a few times. Frank Warren did a piece on him and exposed him as a ducker.

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            • iamboxing
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              #26
              depends who you ask

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              • McNulty
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                #27
                Originally posted by kafkod
                *************** off you ignorant fanboy. Calzaghe owned that glass jawed steroid cheat when he eventually got him into the ring in 2008 and he would have owned him at any stage of their careers.

                Jones got KTFO by Calzaghe's former bucket carrier Enzo Maccarinelli, ffs.
                Calzaghe had a glass jaw, dropped by a wrist in the first round, even feather fisted Hopkins dropped him in the first round, noname Byron Mitchell had him out until Parris saved him. After Jones was shňt to shít sure he lost to Enzo at Cruiserweight. Calzaghe never moved weights cuz he was a chicken shít to take a real challenge. Ali lost to Leon Spinks when Ali was shot, does that meake Leon Spinks better than Ali?

                Calzaghe was a cherry picking sheep shagger. He's not even dead and he's forgotten by everyone including his countrymen --- and the sheep from last week.

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                • sunny31
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                  What a load of crap. He pulled out of a Glen Johnson fight a few times. Frank Warren did a piece on him and exposed him as a ducker.
                  Frank Warren also called him the best British fighter in the post war era, and this is after they broke up. There are a few instances of Calazghe being ducked too.

                  Selective memory.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by sunny31
                    Frank Warren also called him the best British fighter in the post war era, and this is after they broke up. There are a few instances of Calazghe being ducked too.

                    Selective memory.
                    That's Warrens opinion. Him pulling out of fights is facts. It took Calzaghe a decade to step up and fight the best. He was the joke of boxing for a long time. A couple of wins over faded HOF fighters doesn't wipe that out. Sorry.

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                    • sunny31
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by McNulty
                      Calzaghe had a glass jaw, dropped by a wrist in the first round, even feather fisted Hopkins dropped him in the first round, noname Byron Mitchell had him out until Parris saved him. After Jones was shňt to shít sure he lost to Enzo at Cruiserweight. Calzaghe never moved weights cuz he was a chicken shít to take a real challenge. Ali lost to Leon Spinks when Ali was shot, does that meake Leon Spinks better than Ali?

                      Calzaghe was a cherry picking sheep shagger. He's not even dead and he's forgotten by everyone including his countrymen --- and the sheep from last week.
                      There were question marks over Calzaghes punch technique pretty much all the way through his career. But around his chin? Nah not sure where you are getting that from. His chin was proven against Eubank, he took some hellacious bombs in that fight, and subsequently in fights after that. Yep Mitchell put him down, but he could punch, he might be a 'no name' to you and your obviously limited knowledge around the time but he was a good amateur and a multi-time champion who had been robbed by Ottke in his previous fight.

                      Calazghe hasn't been forgotten by anyone, I find it funny how some of you guys think you know perceptions in a different country. Embarrassing.
                      Last edited by sunny31; 03-01-2018, 04:28 AM.

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