Comments Thread For: DiBella: Hearn Wouldn't Make Joshua-Ortiz; Don't Question Wilder

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I'm not going to give the WBC credit as the most important championship at that time when Wladimir had the other belts for a long time and fought better contenders.

Nobody said Stiverne was the most important champion, clearly that was Klitschko. But that doesn't change that Stiverne had the most important championship. For many years of Klitschko's reign, the WBC was held by his older brother, who most experts favored to beat him. So Klitschko wasn't even considered the top heavyweight until his brother vacated the WBC title.

So with Stiverne on the shelf for over 4 months, he should have been stripped.

Please name the last time a WBC champion was stripped for not fighting for 4 months. This is so idiotic it makes it hard to believe your posts are serious. All 17 divisions would be vacant very quickly if you stripped champions for not fighting for 4 months. Did you just start watching boxing yesterday or something?

I just brought up Bryant Jennings as a challenger for the WBC title. You can't tell me that Duhaupas and Szpilka are more valid opponents than Jennings is...especially when Jennings beat Szpilka. I just can't accept that.

Oh god. Your post is getting even worse. Still can't tell if you're serious, but man this is bad.

The year Wilder won his title, Jennings was an HBO fighter, lost both of his fights, and then didn't fight anybody for two years.

So Wilder was supposed to seek out a fighter who wasn't with his network, who was coming off two losses, who didn't seem particularly interested in fighting anybody. Okay. Again, did you start watching boxing yesterday? This is just crazy talk.

Jennings agreed to fight Klitschko on HBO before Wilder was even champion. Win or lose, HBO owed him another fight after that. Jennings was brutally knocked out and then sat out for two years. When in the world would this fight have made sense? Haymon is going to go seek out a fighter coming off two straight losses, that isn't signed with him, that nobody wants to see anymore? Ridiculous.

I'm not just talking about his appearances on Showtime, I'm including the fights that are on NBC as well. However, I would not put it past those in the PBC to over-exaggerate the earnings of their fighters.

Oh wow. So now they're OVER REPORTING their purses, to pay MORE taxes and MORE sanctioning fees?!!

Thank for being one of the dumbest people I've ever encountered on this site. Goodbye.

[juggernaut666]

This is another lie. Fury vs. Klitschko II wasn't even canceled until late September, so how could Joshua vs. Klitschko have been announced in August 2016?

Joshua was planning to fight Parker in November 2016, something that was already known in June.

PROOF: https://www.boxingscene.com/anthony-...parker--106084

So how did Joshua announce a fight with Klitschko in August 2016 when he was already scheduled to fight Parker in November 2016?

Over and over and over, you get trapped in blatant lies.

Joshua decided to fight Klitchko instead of Parker in August you simpleton ,im pretty sure anyone can look that up. The link you offered is from June ,so not only do you lie but you cant do math either ? GREAT .


There was no set date to fight Parker ,did they have a secret press conference we all missed ?


You get dumber and dumber ....this is why you should FOLLOW boxing instead of trolling the forum .


Your TRYING once again to perpetuate a LIE by a link which discussed Joshua and Parker interest ,how NOT so clever .

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Joshua decided to fight Klitchko instead of Parker in August you simpleton ,im pretty sure anyone can look that up.

Okay, let's look it up.

http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...-called-second

Fury vs. Klitschko II wasn't canceled until September 23. If the fight wasn't canceled until September 23, how could Joshua have decided to fight Klitschko instead of Parker in August?

Yet again, you're caught in a blatant lie.

He couldn't have possibly decided to fight Klitschko in August when in August Klitschko already had a fight scheduled. FROM SEPTEMBER:

http://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/10562716/anthony-joshua-to-defend-world-title-in-manchester-on-november-26

The identity of his opponent will be revealed in the week commencing September 26 and promoter Eddie Hearn has previously named mandatory challenger Joseph Parker, former world champion Bermane Stiverne and European title-holder Kubrat Pulev as the most likely candidates.

[juggernaut666]

Okay, let's look it up.

http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...-called-second

Fury vs. Klitschko II wasn't canceled until September 23. If the fight wasn't canceled until September 23, how could Joshua have decided to fight Klitschko instead of Parker in August?

Yet again, you're caught in a blatant lie.

He couldn't have possibly decided to fight Klitschko in August when in August Klitschko already had a fight scheduled. FROM SEPTEMBER:

http://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/10562716/anthony-joshua-to-defend-world-title-in-manchester-on-november-26

The identity of his opponent will be revealed in the week commencing September 26 and promoter Eddie Hearn has previously named mandatory challenger Joseph Parker, former world champion Bermane Stiverne and European title-holder Kubrat Pulev as the most likely candidates.

Joshua said in AUGUST he would be fighting Nov. 26th ........... who had a press conference or signed to fight at that date ? KLITCHKO by the time the match was agreed upon right ?

This is what im looking at .

It says Hearn wanted Klitchko instead of Parker , why are you insisting Parker was scheduled to fight Joshua ? The Fury fight was cancelled in Sept. i already posted that , how could Parker fight Joshua ....it clearly says Hearn wanted Klitchko .

Klitchko and Hearn were in negotiations days after the Fury fight was cancelled ,which again brings me back .....why wasn't Wilder pursuing Klitchko for late 2016 /2017 and calling him a duck?

Just stop .....

[JRB123]

Nobody said Stiverne was the most important champion, clearly that was Klitschko. But that doesn't change that Stiverne had the most important championship. For many years of Klitschko's reign, the WBC was held by his older brother, who most experts favored to beat him. So Klitschko wasn't even considered the top heavyweight until his brother vacated the WBC title.

Please name the last time a WBC champion was stripped for not fighting for 4 months. This is so idiotic it makes it hard to believe your posts are serious. All 17 divisions would be vacant very quickly if you stripped champions for not fighting for 4 months.

First off, the WBC has been a joke of an organization since Vitali retired. They have adopted a program but make inconsistent decisions about the results that they get. Case in point: Luis Nery.

Now as far as the defenses are concerned, the WBC should uphold to their rules. Otherwise either revise them or just say **** it and ignore everything that they set forth.

They also for some reason won't strip their champions, even though it is specified in Article 3, Section 2 of their rules and regulations...

"A champion who does not defend his title within the periods set forth herein shall forfeit his title, unless the WBC in its sole discretion otherwise permits. Further, the WBC may also withdraw recognition of a mandatory or qualifying challenger for inactivity or failure to engage in any bout ordered by the WBC."

This circles back to the WBC not adhering to their own rules. This is documented.

So Wilder was supposed to seek out a fighter who wasn't with his network, who was coming off two losses, who didn't seem particularly interested in fighting anybody.

Man what?

On two occasions Wilder passed on fighting Jennings. This has nothing to do with Jennings being on HBO. Jennings was a fighter under Main Events. He had fights under Kathy Duva for years. Did Jennings fight on HBO in 2012? Nope. So at that time he was not exclusive to HBO.

In 2013, he had a fight that was on the NBC Sports Network (like all of his fights in 2012) then in 2014 was a co-feature on Top Rank's card against Szpilka. His next fight was a WBC eliminator against Mike Perez.

"One of the WBC's next heavyweight title eliminators could be headed to HBO on May 24, which would pit unbeaten American Bryant Jennings against unbeaten Cuban Mike Perez, with the winner slated to face the winner of the winner of the Bermane Stiverne-Chris Arreola rematch vs Deontay Wilder."

"Jennings (18-0, 10 KO) defected from Main Events to Gary Shaw Productions last year, and made his HBO debut on January 25 with a TKO win over Artur Szpilka."

https://www.badlefthook.com/2014/4/1/5570000/bryant-jennings-vs-mike-perez-possible-for-hbo-on-may-24

Jennings agreed to fight Klitschko on HBO before Wilder was even champion. Win or lose, HBO owed him another fight after that. Jennings was brutally knocked out and then sat out for two years. When in the world would this fight have made sense? Haymon is going to go seek out a fighter coming off two straight losses, that isn't signed with him, that nobody wants to see anymore? Ridiculous.

That fight was not set in stone until after the Wilder-Stiverne fight. It could have gone up in flames due to Shaw selling his company. Guess who he sold it to? Roc Nation.

Now we got something here...Either Wilder passed on fighting Jennings in 2012 (like I showed) and/or he passed on fighting him again in 2015. Take your pick.

Oh, and once again it has nothing to do with being on another network.

[JRB123]

Okay, let's look it up.

http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...-called-second

Fury vs. Klitschko II wasn't canceled until September 23. If the fight wasn't canceled until September 23, how could Joshua have decided to fight Klitschko instead of Parker in August?

Yet again, you're caught in a blatant lie.

He couldn't have possibly decided to fight Klitschko in August when in August Klitschko already had a fight scheduled. FROM SEPTEMBER:

http://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/10562716/anthony-joshua-to-defend-world-title-in-manchester-on-november-26

The identity of his opponent will be revealed in the week commencing September 26 and promoter Eddie Hearn has previously named mandatory challenger Joseph Parker, former world champion Bermane Stiverne and European title-holder Kubrat Pulev as the most likely candidates.

Yeah that couldn't have happened in August. They weren't talking then. It was later than that.

https://www.badlefthook.com/2016/10/5/13174766/eddie-hearn-says-anthony-joshua-wladimir-klitschko-fight-is-getting

The possibility came up in early October, but a few weeks later that fight got "pushed back" due to an injury to Wlad. Which was after it was confirmed the Wlad-Fury rematch was scrapped.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/37758260