Mike Tyson: Wilder is the weakest among HW champions!

[juggernaut666]

That's a lie.

http://www.tbrb.org/2015/10/10/13-january-2015/

3. Bermane Stiverne


If you're lying about that, what else are you lying about?

THESE ARE THE SEPTEMBER 2015 RANKINGS .

8 September 2015


by Springs Toledo | Oct 13, 2015 | archives | 0 comments
Heavyweight


Champion: Wladimir Klitschko
1. Alexander Povetkin
2. Tyson Fury
3. Deontay Wilder
4. Kubrat Pulev
5. Bermane Stiverne
6. Carlos Takam
7. Vyacheslav Glazkov
8. Bryant Jennings
9. Steve Cunningham
10. Ruslan Chagaev .


Why do you insist making a FOOL of yourself on here ? And EVERYONE knows who the BIGGEST liar is on possibly this forums history ,which would be YOU . lol

DUMMY !




Now if you want to CLAIM he was 3 OFF this site before he fought him than thats on you , i was going by the notion you CONSIDER him a top 2 fighter which again is nonsense bc there were better fighters out there .including Wilder who they had Stiverne ranked over . He was only 3 prior to fighting him .

[juggernaut666]

he probably just looked on boxrec. I'm sure stiverne was #2 in one of those **** organizations he reps in his avi.

It dont matter where he looked , no one who knows about boxing would rank Stiverne a number 2 HW in the WORLD , or use a straw man point CLAIMING Stiverne was a world beater and better win than Joshua defeating Klitchko!

This is what he does !

The problem is he dont follow boxing ,he reads links and looks off of numbers and THINKS rankings make him look smart.

His OWN ranking system had Stiverne OVER Wilder ,yet it was Wilder who was the favorite by ACTUAL real life betting lines ?

[N/A]

Oh this is just so great. So Jughead wrote:

The Transnational rankings has Stiverne at 5 when Wilder fought him.

So I link to the TBRB ratings from January 2015, released just days before the Wilder fight, which show that Stiverne was #3. Clearly Jughead was wrong. There's no getting around it. It's in black and white. He was lying. Caught red handed.


So then Jughead writes:

THESE ARE THE SEPTEMBER 2015 RANKINGS.

Which is great, because Stiverne fought Wilder in January 2015, which is the ratings I posted. But for some reason, even though Jughead already wrote that Stiverne was #5 when Wilder fought him and he was shown that Stiverne was clearly #3, now he's posting ratings from EIGHT MONTHS AFTER THE FIGHT HAPPENED!!!

Here's the best part though. Jughead, who thought nobody would realize September 2015 is eight months after January 2015, then writes this brilliant paragraph after digging his own grave:

Why do you insist making a FOOL of yourself on here ? And EVERYONE knows who the BIGGEST liar is on possibly this forums history ,which would be YOU . lol

DUMMY !

[N/A]

he probably just looked on boxrec. I'm sure stiverne was #2 in one of those **** organizations he reps in his avi.

When Wilder challenged Stiverne, ESPN & Ring both had Stiverne #2 in the world.

It's clearly a better win than anything on Parker's resume.

It's just plain ****** how much you guys rewrite history to slag Wilder. His resume is already weak enough. Why lie? Why not just honestly assess facts? Why the obsessive desire to rewrite history? It honestly comes across as mental illness.

[hugh grant]

If? You can say a lot of things using the word “if”.

Tif wilder has good chin he will take sustained beating via points loss

[Raggamuffin]

Oh this is just so great. So Jughead wrote:




So I link to the TBRB ratings from January 2015, released just days before the Wilder fight, which show that Wilder was #3. Clearly Jughead was wrong. There's no getting around it. It's in black and white. He was lying. Caught red handed.


So then Jughead writes:




Which is great, because Stiverne fought Wilder in January 2015, which is the ratings I posted. But for some reason, even though Jughead already wrote that Stiverne was #5 when Wilder fought him and he was shown that Stiverne was clearly #3, now he's posting ratings from EIGHT MONTHS AFTER THE FIGHT HAPPENED!!!

Here's the best part though. Jughead, who thought nobody would realize September 2015 is eight months after January 2015, then writes this brilliant paragraph after digging his own grave:

Damn Jughead you have a web of lies and exaggerations being exposed here. Shoulda edited that **** lmao.

[Real King Kong]

When Wilder challenged Stiverne, ESPN & Ring both had Stiverne #2 in the world.

It's clearly a better win than anything on Parker's resume.

It's just plain ****** how much you guys rewrite history to slag Wilder. His resume is already weak enough. Why lie? Why not just honestly assess facts? Why the obsessive desire to rewrite history? It honestly comes across as mental illness.

lol...I agreed with you, if you take a look at my previous post. "you guys'...

[N/A]

lol...I agreed with you, if you take a look at my previous post. "you guys'...

No, you said Stiverne was probably #2 in one of the groups I "rep" in my avatar. But that's not what I was saying. He was #2 in ESPN & RING, not the alphabet groups.

[Real King Kong]

No, you said Stiverne was probably #2 in one of the groups I "rep" in my avatar. But that's not what I was saying. He was #2 in ESPN & RING, not the alphabet groups.

I said the ring had him that high in the post before that one. I was saying you probably either looked that up on boxrec, or knew he was rated by one of the worthless sanctioning bodies.

[N/A]

I said the ring had him that high in the post before that one. I was saying you probably either looked that up on boxrec, or knew he was rated by one of the worthless sanctioning bodies.

And what I'm saying is that Stiverne, when he was WBC champion (and therefore not even ranked by any alphabet group), was a consensus #2 or #3 heavyweight in all the major independent rankings (ESPN, Ring, TBRB, etc).

No idea what he was in boxrec then, but I know for a fact he was ESPN #2, Ring #2 and TBRB #3.

Which is a higher ranking win than anything on AJ's resume. Obviously the Klitschko win is much more impressive COMMERCIALLY, and anybody would rather beat Klitschko than Stiverne, but considering Klitschko was coming off a humiliating defeat, and a year and a half of inactivity, he was understandably not ranked anymore by many of the most respected independent ranking systems.

So we shouldn't rewrite history and act like Wilder has never fought a top fighter. He fought the #2 heavyweight in the world and shut him out. Parker has never done anything close to that. Neither has AJ. That's not a slight on AJ. Great fighter. All respect. But the lying about Wilder is ridiculous.