Comments Thread For: Wilder: I Want To Knock Luis Ortiz's Head Clean Off His Shoulders!

[Ray*]

It is interesting how Wilder was able to get the WBC belt in the first place...in 2013, he fought Matthew Greer, Audley Harrison, Siarhei Liakovich, and Nicolai Firtha. Then he faced Malik Scott (we know what happened there) and Jason Gavern (who was 25-16-4) before the WBC title fight.

This is why i was laughing when one poster on here was going on and on about Dillian Whyte and how and why is he the mandatory to Wilder's WBC.

The poster was moaning about how he got ranked, who he fought to get to that position etc, And i pointed out the Irony (Even doe i agree with his initial thought about rankings) in his thinking/post.

He then went on about Joshua and charles Martin (Not sure what that had to do with the WBC ranking or the topic of Wilder's WBC and Whyte).

If thats all Wilder opponents before he got his chance at the WBC belt against Bermane stiverne, then why would anyone criticise Whyte ranking? Especially a poster who spend time defending anything Wilder.

[pollywog]

Lions don't live in jungles...

They do in the BRONZE AGE!!!

[N/A]

he faced Malik Scott (we know what happened there)

you instantly invalidate your entire post.

claiming a final WBC eliminator for the heavyweight championship of the world saw one of the fighters take a dive, when there is absolutely no evidence to support that and poor malik scott was hit flush on the side of the head, by a shot he didn't see coming, from the hardest puncher on earth.

get that unsupported conspiracy nutjob **** out of here.

seriously. you're embarrassing yourself. did stiverne take a dive too? and all the other KO'd in the first round?

it was the biggest night of malik scott's life and he took a dive? what do you have to support that?

[Elroy The Great]

he will get it done.

no prob

[Akutalee]

Talk is cheap though

[JRB123]

This is why i was laughing when one poster on here was going on and on about Dillian Whyte and how and why is he the mandatory to Wilder's WBC.

The poster was moaning about how he got ranked, who he fought to get to that position etc, And i pointed out the Irony (Even doe i agree with his initial thought about rankings) in his thinking/post.

He then went on about Joshua and charles Martin (Not sure what that had to do with the WBC ranking or the topic of Wilder's WBC and Whyte).

If thats all Wilder opponents before he got his chance at the WBC belt against Bermane stiverne, then why would anyone criticise Whyte ranking? Especially a poster who spend time defending anything Wilder.

23 fights in, Whyte had beaten a higher ranked opponent in Chisora than Wilder did in his fight with Malik Scott.

That was Wilder's 31st pro fight.

We all know that Wilder's competition left something to be desired and he has been called out on it. The whole "most feared man in the division" talk is BS when multiple fighters called him out over the years, including Miller, Fury, Whyte, Chisora, and Briggs.

[JRB123]

you instantly invalidate your entire post.

claiming a final WBC eliminator for the heavyweight championship of the world saw one of the fighters take a dive, when there is absolutely no evidence to support that and poor malik scott was hit flush on the side of the head, by a shot he didn't see coming, from the hardest puncher on earth.

get that unsupported conspiracy nutjob **** out of here.

seriously. you're embarrassing yourself. did stiverne take a dive too? and all the other KO'd in the first round?

it was the biggest night of malik scott's life and he took a dive? what do you have to support that?

The hardest puncher on Earth???

Don't get me started on this. Please don't.

[etech1]

His manager, who is also Klitschko's manager, said Wilder would need a couple fights before being ready for Klitschko. So, he quickly scheduled a couple fights for Wilder. Not world beaters, but not bums either. After Wilder knocked out Duhaupas, he went on to knock out Helenius to become silver WBC heavyweight champion, and wound up spending the next six months in the TBRB top 10. So Duhaupas was clearly better than people gave him credit for.

When Wilder & Klitschko's manager said Wilder would need a couple fights, Klitschko already had a fight scheduled, so he wasn't available anyway. After Wilder's two quick fights, he went public that he was ready for Klitschko ASAP. Klitschko needed to make a mandatory defense against Fury, and Wilder said in a lengthy interview with Forbes that he'd fight Klitsckho in 2016.

As we all know, Fury pulled off the upset, ruining plans for Klitschko vs. Wilder. But that is not Wilder's fault. Just as it isn't Wilder's fault that Povetkin cheated or that King Kong cheated.

Now Wilder is giving King Kong a second chance. In a voluntary defense, Wilder is fighting the most avoided monster in the division. If you can't give him props for that, then you're never going to give him props for anything. You're just a hater, plain and simple.

I think both side have a legit argument. Wilder did indeed fight a lot of cans, but he has definitely tried to pick up the pace in the last couple of years or so, but was unable to, through no faults of his own.

And you make a good point, that Ortiz is a voluntary defence, no one wanted any part of Ortiz.

[etech1]

It is interesting how Wilder was able to get the WBC belt in the first place...in 2013, he fought Matthew Greer, Audley Harrison, Siarhei Liakovich, and Nicolai Firtha. Then he faced Malik Scott (we know what happened there) and Jason Gavern (who was 25-16-4) before the WBC title fight. His opponent - Bermane Stiverne - was coming off fighting one time per year since 2012...a fight with Willie Herring in April of that year, then waiting nearly a year until his first fight with Arreola, and then almost 13 months until his next fight with Arreola for the vacant WBC title.

Stiverne had to wait another 8 months to defend that title, when the rules state that you have to defend the bet every 90 to 120 days. 8 months is much more than 120 days, so what happened there?

On top of that, Wilder didn't make his first defense of that title until five months after winning it. To further add su****ion, he was supposed to defend against the mandatory challenger one year after winning the title. He didn't.

At first I thought Scott took a dive too, but if you look at the chisora fight, Scott needed a legit 8 count, from a shot that was hard, but shouldn't have been enough to drop him. I think it's possible that Scott just doesn't have a strong chin, and wilder IS one of the hardest punchers in the division.

[etech1]

It is interesting how Wilder was able to get the WBC belt in the first place...in 2013, he fought Matthew Greer, Audley Harrison, Siarhei Liakovich, and Nicolai Firtha. Then he faced Malik Scott (we know what happened there) and Jason Gavern (who was 25-16-4) before the WBC title fight. His opponent - Bermane Stiverne - was coming off fighting one time per year since 2012...a fight with Willie Herring in April of that year, then waiting nearly a year until his first fight with Arreola, and then almost 13 months until his next fight with Arreola for the vacant WBC title.

Stiverne had to wait another 8 months to defend that title, when the rules state that you have to defend the bet every 90 to 120 days. 8 months is much more than 120 days, so what happened there?

On top of that, Wilder didn't make his first defense of that title until five months after winning it. To further add su****ion, he was supposed to defend against the mandatory challenger one year after winning the title. He didn't.

WBC = We Be Criminals