People make Roy seem...

[Super_Lightweight]

...more shot than he really was going into the 2nd Antonio Tarver fight.
Nothing any one of you say can change my mind.
I don't give a ****...that's my opinion.

The muscle loss thing, I kind of believe, but let's stop making less of Tarver's brutal knockout on Roy Jones Jr.

People always talk about somebody being finished after they lose or have a close fight they should've dominated in. I admit, I'm even guilty for doing that sometimes...but Roy wasn't as shot as some people think.

If Roy Jones Jr. wins his next fight in an impressive fashion, you can bet mother****ers are going to be making threads asking, "Was Roy really shot?"

Losing muscle mass permanently affects your stamina and athletic abilities. Other effects it has or might have are still being studied. I know a guy way younger than Roy who lost 15 lbs and was already solid muscle...and he was also never the same. His body was never able to respond as quickly or as often as he wanted it to.

You're kidding yourself in you think Roy was the same.

He won't beat down Ajamu. He might win, but it won't be any knd of prime-looking Roy. You'll see.

Tarver's KO was brutal...a brutal thing that probably would've never happened to a prime Roy. Roy was noticeably more hittable vs Woods even before he went to heavyweight. It makes it pretty easy to dismis Tarver given what he suffered vs Hopkins, Glen Johnson, and Roy in the 1st fight.

[realheavyhands]

if jones wouldnt have changed after the mccellen incident who knows how good he couldve been,he was a physical freak,if he works hard enough and gets a jab he could be unbeatable again, he doesnt turn his jab over tho or his right hand really, he might be fighting backwards maybe hes supposed to be a southpaw he looks akward when he moves

[-EX-]

He's not completely shot, but it looks(in the 3rd Tarver fight) he is afraid to get hit or KTFO again. I don't think him and Hopkins is worth it since B-Hop is probably very confident now.

[guru]

i think tarver would have given a prime roy problems too... i think tarver himself and his style had just as much to do with it as roy's faded reflexes... i wont go so far as to say AT would have beaten a prime roy, but he would have still gave him a tough fight..

[THE REAL NINJA]

i dont think he was "shot" but i also dont think he was even close to at his best ..at any other time Roy would have done to Tarver what Hopkins just did ....and where are all the "is Tarver shot" threads at ?

[-EX-]

There is no reason for a Hopkins rematch because Hopkins would probably break him down the whole night, unless Roy comes out to fight.

[RAESAAD]

...more shot than he really was going into the 2nd Antonio Tarver fight.
Nothing any one of you say can change my mind.
I don't give a ****...that's my opinion.

The muscle loss thing, I kind of believe, but let's stop making less of Tarver's brutal knockout on Roy Jones Jr.

People always talk about somebody being finished after they lose or have a close fight they should've dominated in. I admit, I'm even guilty for doing that sometimes...but Roy wasn't as shot as some people think.

If Roy Jones Jr. wins his next fight in an impressive fashion, you can bet mother****ers are going to be making threads asking, "Was Roy really shot?"

I agree Roy was not shot but it was a good excuse for all of his fans since nobody had seen him get KTFO like that.

[Deeznuts]

If he wasn't shot on the first fight he sure was of the KO. He dominated a bigger and stronger Ruiz (I know he's garbage) but after the KO of Tarver, he was scared to throw punches in the Glen fight and Tarver fight. Why doesn't he fight Glen for the rematch?

[Kendo]

roy isnt as shot as people are saying he is but when you lose all that weight in only a few months it takes a tole on you. tarver knew what he was doing. and i love how all you tarver lovers keep bringing up the roy KO of what almost 2 years ago. he got the crap kicked out of him by hops. just give hops the credit. in the 3rd fight RJJ wasnt scared to get KOed. when he opened up he messed tarver up. tarver did not want to mix with RJJ. that fight was just to prove that after 2 KO's he could go 12 rounds without getting KOed. this fight in july will tell us if roy is still a contender or maybe just out for old number 50. he wins this fight. look for him to try and take the winner of woods johnson fight if that goes on. or look for tarver to think he can get an easy win. bc we all know tarver has to start talking about how he beat RJJ since he cant talk about how he got beat by hops.