People make Roy seem...

[JuicyJuice]

At the end of the day, Jones was nowhere near the fighter at 175 as he was in his prime (154-168).

But there you go.

[Bozo_no no]

So would all of you say Roy lacks the heart or was he just a cautious fighter and is now even moreso cautious after being KO'd?
I think it's a little bit of both. I mean, he obviously was always a cautious fighter and was more than comfortable with the fight going to the cards instead of taking KOs when they were there, but in the third Tarver fight he showed competitiveness at times (in a way that suggests he isn't shot), but on the negative side, he showed a gunshy side that made him look like a coward.

I think it's a matter of him being unable to re-invent himself at 37.

His faculties are faded, his confidence is shot, and that's an uphill battle for somone who (earlier in his career) had a skill set that allowed him to coast through championship callibur fights on auto pilot.

He shouldn't even be fighting anymore imo. Nothing left to prove or gain.

[Easy-E]

...more shot than he really was going into the 2nd Antonio Tarver fight.
Nothing any one of you say can change my mind.
I don't give a ****...that's my opinion.

The muscle loss thing, I kind of believe, but let's stop making less of Tarver's brutal knockout on Roy Jones Jr.

People always talk about somebody being finished after they lose or have a close fight they should've dominated in. I admit, I'm even guilty for doing that sometimes...but Roy wasn't as shot as some people think.

If Roy Jones Jr. wins his next fight in an impressive fashion, you can bet mother****ers are going to be making threads asking, "Was Roy really shot?"

The answer?
Yes.
Yes he was.
He showed signs of ageing in the first tarver fight, and i wasnt sure if his career was ending or not.
After the Tarver fight, it was apparent he was done.
The Johnson fight and final tarver fight are clear evidence of that.

[Cockyb]

after da 2nd Tarver fight (and to sum extent da 1st tarver fight) RJJ didnt all of a sudden lose all his skills, all his speed or his reflexes, he LOST ALL his CONFIDENCE!

dats hard to regain! dats why he'l never be da fighter he once was!

[UntouchableM2]

Roy still got it....not like he once did but he can still be champ again imo....if he really tries and lets them hands fly....

[Built 2 Last]

hes numab in my eyes...tru champ

but i feel goin frm heavy bak 2 light heavy disturbed his boxing speed...bu he still gud tho

[DiegoFuego]

Roy isn't shot so much as exposed. I'll give you the weight loss thing on the first Tarver fight, but the second fight Tarver simply knocked the fight out of Jones. Jones is a scared fighter now who won't take on anybody who could potentially KO him. Believe that. He just wants 50 wins and out.

[LOLORSKATES]

Roy isn't shot so much as exposed. I'll give you the weight loss thing on the first Tarver fight, but the second fight Tarver simply knocked the fight out of Jones. Jones is a scared fighter now who won't take on anybody who could potentially KO him. Believe that. He just wants 50 wins and out.

I would seriously give you hell if you lived in the same city as me..you always have it out for Roy. besides Tarver's knockout was a lucky one in my opinion. He had his eyes closed, where's your proof of Jones being a scared fighter and won't take on anyone who could potentially KO him? The man he's about to fight in Idaho has more then half of his wins by KO and you wanna talk **** like he wants his 50 and get out. Roy's gonna be back and you'll know it when he steps in the ring to shut people like you and others the **** up.

[Bozo_no no]

Jones is a scared fighter now who won't take on anybody who could potentially KO him.

That's why he fought Tarver last, right Champ?

Go ahead and talk about how he fought scared. That way I can point out what a ***** Tarver looked like in the Hopkins fight.

Funny how you didn't have a whole lot to say about that.

[LOLORSKATES]

That's why he fought Tarver last, right Champ?

Go ahead and talk about how he fought scared. That way I can point out what a ***** Tarver looked like in the Hopkins fight.

Funny how you didn't have a whole lot to say about that.

He won't say **** about things when your right, but he'll talk all the **** he wants.