Comments Thread For: Sor Rungvisai Decisions a Very Determined Juan Francisco Estrada

[Shadoww702]

youre calling me a noob and you dont know compubox is two wankers hitting buttons when they think they see a punch land? youre talking about the numbers like they're undeniable fact. Compubox is more like ****** fluff that is increasingly used as propaganda.

Estrada got punished for starting off well and then going too defensive in the middle rounds, but aside from 3 rounds, he still got the better of the action during his inactive periods and thats what people are supposed to judge, the actual fight, not narratives that rely on assumptions like "Rungvisai hits harder" despite literally never rocking Estrada either.

Estrada also just minimises punches by rolling and letting his body go with the punch and most so called body shots where at least partially blocked if not outright dodged and blocked......"but Sor punches hard doe"... watch the fight without bias and dont fall for the "Estrada is losing because Sor is doing better than he was earlier" narratives...and stop believing compubox too

Have you ever sat down and tried matching counting punches with theirs??? I did it a few times in slow motion and it was very hard. I cant imagine doing it in real time??? When I compared the 2 they were maybe 70% correct. But I give them credit they usually error on the side of caution on if its close are hard tell and usually will call it a miss. Ppl swear up and down by it! which is beyond ******... Ive had ppl argue with me on fights they later admited not even seeing based on compubox numbers lol..

[Gillie]

Yes you could blame Estrada, but I blame it more on his corner/trainer. He's a great boxer but still inexperienced, that's a big part of why his corner is even there, they were really the ones that did not get the job done tonight. When Sri was winning all those middle rounds, they weren't even giving their fighter any sense of urgency.

Inexperienced? He has 40 fights and is a former world champion who has been in with the best. Care to elqborate please?

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Also the difference is that Marquez and Pacquiao snapped each other's head back and Pacquiao beat him on the basis of activity, but with Estrada-Rungvisai, it was Rungvisai who landed the head snapping punches and won it in activity.

Estrada landed a lot of clean, crisp punches also. The cleaner work definitely came from Estrada. C’mon man be real.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

This is exactly the reason Sirsacet got the W, these casuals have forgotten the other criteria's of boxing, for starters they cant say Rungvisai had better defense or even Ring-generalship, period!

Some people just don’t understand how to score fights. One judge certainly didn’t last night haha

[Gillie]

youre calling me a noob and you dont know compubox is two wankers hitting buttons when they think they see a punch land? youre talking about the numbers like they're undeniable fact. Compubox is more like ****** fluff that is increasingly used as propaganda.

Estrada got punished for starting off well and then going too defensive in the middle rounds, but aside from 3 rounds, he still got the better of the action during his inactive periods and thats what people are supposed to judge, the actual fight, not narratives that rely on assumptions like "Rungvisai hits harder" despite literally never rocking Estrada either.

Estrada also just minimises punches by rolling and letting his body go with the punch and most so called body shots where at least partially blocked if not outright dodged and blocked......"but Sor punches hard doe"... watch the fight without bias and dont fall for the "Estrada is losing because Sor is doing better than he was earlier" narratives...and stop believing compubox too

He didn't just randomly choose to get defensive in the middle rounds though, he was having trouble finding what he wanted because of Sor Rungvisai's subtle slips and angles. It wasn't flashy but definitely enough to disrupt Etrada's rhythm and prevent him from jumping in like he did later in the fight when it appeared that he knew he was behind. Estrada looked like he found something once he stopped giving Sor Rungvisai so much respect and started using his speed advantage a little better. I would really fancy Estrada's chances in a rematch but I think that Sor Rungvisai won this one. My two cents. Peace.

[Laypipe]

I saw a boxing lesson period....

[angkag]

Some people just don’t understand how to score fights. One judge certainly didn’t last night haha

There's only one judge who knows how to score fights, but she couldn't be there last night because she couldn't find her glasses (talkin' bout you Adalaide).

She had Estrada winning 11 rounds to nil (she scored the last for Canelo out of habit).

[Afi23]

Max Kellerman has definitely getting more biased towards ceetain fighters as well lately. Nothing like his early days work. Currently Paulie is my fav. But even he says whacked sht at times...

Agree. I feel like Showtime does a better job lately of not blatantly showing their bias and more importantly, actually describing what is happening inside the ring. At times, Jim and Max want to describe everything but the fight!

[Just looking]

It's about time for Rungvisai to start working with Roach

[Shadoww702]

Agree. I feel like Showtime does a better job lately of not blatantly showing their bias and more importantly, actually describing what is happening inside the ring. At times, Jim and Max want to describe everything but the fight!

Exactly!!! Again and theres times Max looks and sounds drunk??? He thinks he some HUGE celebrity living that lifestyle. Dougie Fish ive been following more and more. And bread.

Dan Rafeal is hit and miss??? Times he makes sense and then times he sounds like he wants to do nothing but give Bob Arum BJ's. And also gets to personnel and disrepectful to great fighters like Rig. And Lara.