Comments Thread For: Coldwell To Eubank Jr. - Beg Adam Booth To Take You Back!

[apollocreed]

It's just so unusual to see someone reaching a high level with such a lack of basic skills. I think its natural for trainers to look at Eubank Jr and think, just get him into the gym for a year, develop a decent jab, some (any) movement and some kind of gameplan and he should improve beyond all recognition.

Nothing wrong with his heart. He kept on eating that jab from 1 to 12. So I would think some are looking at him and wondering if they could succeed where others have failed.

He's got terrible footwork and balance though, which is the base that everything else is built on. He skipped a proper amateur career because he thought he didn't need one, which is wher good habits are supposed to be ingrained.
It would be a deceptively hard job improving him much now - at 28, he'll be stuck in his ways, plus he's too arrogant to admit he needs to improve anyway.
It would be a case of rebuilding him but the wrong way round. I can't see anyone being able to make him much better at this stage. He would need a peronsonality transplant for a start, to admit he needs to listen.

[apollocreed]

I can't even recall Booth being with Eubank. Slipped my mind that one.

But yeah, Coldwell is right, Eubank needs to change things up no doubt.

It only lasted for two fights, then no one involved wanted to give the real reason why they parted. Obviously it wasn't working.
I've always thought he didn't look anything special, but I've followed his career as an impartial observer since he turned pro.
When he went to Booth, he also started working with Hearn, and I thought he's finally doing things the right way. It didn't last though, he fell out with both before too long.

[Tricky-Pablo]

The kid just got heart!!

[Mindgames]

It's just so unusual to see someone reaching a high level with such a lack of basic skills. I think its natural for trainers to look at Eubank Jr and think, just get him into the gym for a year, develop a decent jab, some (any) movement and some kind of gameplan and he should improve beyond all recognition.

Nothing wrong with his heart. He kept on eating that jab from 1 to 12. So I would think some are looking at him and wondering if they could succeed where others have failed.

The thing is, he's been around good fighters and trainers for years. He's been coached by Floyd Snr, Adam Booth, Ronnie Davies. He's had very good sparring with several world champions. He has the style he has (high volume brawler) because he doesn't have power, he doesn't have a good jab or good defensive reflexes. He's tough and fit and looks the part, but he's a limited brawler. Great athlete, but not a boxing talent. I think he's father always knew this btw.

[Removed Now]

Eubanks dad is not even 20 ATG at SW. He would lose to Froch, Ward, Joe, Dirrell, Jones jr and Many more.

[Holler]

He's got terrible footwork and balance though, which is the base that everything else is built on. He skipped a proper amateur career because he thought he didn't need one, which is wher good habits are supposed to be ingrained.
It would be a deceptively hard job improving him much now - at 28, he'll be stuck in his ways, plus he's too arrogant to admit he needs to improve anyway.
It would be a case of rebuilding him but the wrong way round. I can't see anyone being able to make him much better at this stage. He would need a peronsonality transplant for a start, to admit he needs to listen.

You may well be right. I saw a few boxers and trainers saying similar in the aftermath and it's not surprising, he really was that bad.

On the other hand I thought Peter Fury was interesting, he's talking Jrabout 12 mins in here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Wto4rs5C_0 and he seems to think that there's some simple tweaks that could help him.

Take your point about the personality transplant though, it's all very well identifying flaws and suggesting solutions, but you still need to be humble enough to accept and act on it.

[alexguiness]

Eubank Jnr will continue to train himself in Ronnie Davis's basement with his security minder holding pads for him.

His punch output will increase to a 15 punch 1 second combination by using his wall mounted machine.

Meanwhile Senior will continue the narrative, Jnr being better than Floyd, GGG and RJJ.

The Eubanks are not exactly astute financial planners, they need paydays.

[Slimjoe]

The kid just got heart!!

Sorry mate, I beg to differ skills pay bills, not heart.You might be blessed with the biggest heart and desire to win but every time you meet a skilful fighter, you get beat.Heart is necessary for Boxing but not sufficient to be at the top for a long period of time.The fight against Groves just proved that.I say it again, there are levels in boxing.

[Yaconcha]

I agree, but it’s a father and son relationship that is having an effect. Human nature

[Squ□redCircle34]

Very disappointed in Jr!

How can someone with so much athletic talent and intangibles not have atleast some of the fundamentals down!

I mean for ***s sake Groves beat him by just moving around in the ring and constantly pumping a jab then clinching whenever Jr was about to square up for some combos!